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Re: Vito Genovese son

by furiofromnaples » Thu Apr 17, 2025 11:32 pm

RushStreet wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 1:19 pm And to think that he had the potential to take over the Genovese family if he would have wanted that. But instead he chooses a productive life to live as a free man and a contributing member of society. Extremely strong will power, integrity, and dedication I have to say thats for sure. Can you imagine what his net worth would have been if he would have chosen to take over after his father? Billions! Not Millions, but Billions of $$$ and one of the richest men in the world.
The famous mobsters sons that took control after their fathers death (with the exception of Trafficante jr)never was tought and smart like their fathers and made much damages to their mob families.

Re: Vito Genovese son

by johnny_scootch » Thu Apr 17, 2025 1:37 pm

RushStreet wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 1:19 pm Billions! Not Millions, but Billions of $$$ and one of the richest men in the world.
Bit of an overestimation.

Re: Vito Genovese son

by RushStreet » Thu Apr 17, 2025 1:19 pm

And to think that he had the potential to take over the Genovese family if he would have wanted that. But instead he chooses a productive life to live as a free man and a contributing member of society. Extremely strong will power, integrity, and dedication I have to say thats for sure. Can you imagine what his net worth would have been if he would have chosen to take over after his father? Billions! Not Millions, but Billions of $$$ and one of the richest men in the world.

Re: Vito Genovese son

by Raven » Thu Apr 17, 2025 10:02 am

JakeTheSnake630 wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 6:58 am
Raven wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 3:58 pm One of Vito’s grandsons was on a podcast about Anna Genovese and her image as a mob queen. The grandson disputed it. It’s not the greatest podcast but it’s on Spotify and is interesting.
In Alto Knights she was portrayed as a fiery woman who took no shit. Not sure how accurate that is, but it is accurate she took Vito to court which def took a lot of balls. I mean for any woman to take her husband to court back then was ballsy let alone that husband being Vito Genovese. I didn't mind Alto Knights, but I know I am kind of geek about this stuff, don't think the movie has a lot of mainstream appeal.
No doubt it took guts for her to do that. I imagine most mafia wives just keep their mouth shut and play their role as a housewife. Vito did have the guy who he had keeping an eye on her killed. Steve Francze I think his name was.

Re: Vito Genovese son

by JakeTheSnake630 » Thu Apr 17, 2025 6:58 am

Raven wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 3:58 pm One of Vito’s grandsons was on a podcast about Anna Genovese and her image as a mob queen. The grandson disputed it. It’s not the greatest podcast but it’s on Spotify and is interesting.
In Alto Knights she was portrayed as a fiery woman who took no shit. Not sure how accurate that is, but it is accurate she took Vito to court which def took a lot of balls. I mean for any woman to take her husband to court back then was ballsy let alone that husband being Vito Genovese. I didn't mind Alto Knights, but I know I am kind of geek about this stuff, don't think the movie has a lot of mainstream appeal.

Re: Vito Genovese son

by AnIrishGuy » Thu Apr 17, 2025 6:08 am

Cool thread. Fascinating

Re: Vito Genovese son

by furiofromnaples » Thu Apr 17, 2025 12:39 am

https://monmouthtimeline.org/timeline/v ... -freehold/

Vito Genovese and His Son Run Into Trouble in Freehold

 March 26, 1950

 Crime, Vito Genovese

 Atlantic Highlands

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Philip Genovese carrying his father's casket. This is a cropped version of an image protected under copyright, altered to specifically illustrate one person within the many in the original to illustrate this educational story. Consistent with terms of Fair Use Doctrine.

On March 26, 1950, Philip Genovese, 18, son of Vito and Anna, driving his father’s car, crashed into a parked vehicle on Route 9 in Freehold, injuring five people. The initial newspaper report at the time erroneously stated that Vito was driving.  The next day, March 27, 1950, Anna moved out of the Atlantic Highlands mansion with the kids, returned to Manhattan, and moved in with her mother.  She would never call New Jersey home again.

On October 17, 1950, Anna filed a lawsuit in Freehold for divorce from Vito, alleging that he “deserted her” in 1948.  She dropped the suit a few months later when Vito began paying her $200 per week, which he did from March 27 through December 15, 1950, but then stopped.

May 31, 1951: Philip Genovese’s auto accident case was ready for trial.  Despite pleas from Asbury Park-based attorney Joseph F. Mattice that he had been retained only one day earlier to represent Philip Genovese, the judge sent the case to trial.  Mattice read a statement that the company that insured the Genovese automobile recently had gone into liquidation, leaving its policy holders with no protection.  Mattice said Vito had engaged the insurance company’s lawyers, but they decided not to appear in court, and so Mattice was asked to step in, but had not had time to prepare a defense.  Mattice and Philip walked out of the courtroom, and the case was sent to the jury with no defense in court.  A judgment for damages of $14,250 was handed down, which was later overturned on appeal for judicial mishandling of the trial.

Sources:

Four Hurt Near Freehold. (1950). Asbury Park Press, Asbury Park, N.J., March 27, 1950, P. 2.

Judge to Decide Genovese Case. (1953).  Asbury Park Press, Asbury Park, N.J., March 4, 1953, P. 1, 2.

Genovese’s Wife Sues for Divorce. (1950).  Daily News, New York, N.Y., October 18, 1950, P. 24.

Return $14,250 Verdict in Case With No Defense. (1951).  The Daily Register, Red Bank, N.J., May 31, 1951, P. 1.

$14,250 Award In Crash Suit Upset by Court. (1952).  Asbury Park Press, Asbury Park, N.J., January 3, 1952, P. 1, 2.

Re: Vito Genovese son

by Raven » Wed Apr 16, 2025 3:58 pm

One of Vito’s grandsons was on a podcast about Anna Genovese and her image as a mob queen. The grandson disputed it. It’s not the greatest podcast but it’s on Spotify and is interesting.

Re: Vito Genovese son

by Oc1878+ » Wed Apr 16, 2025 2:00 pm

Jesus Christ. Vito Genovese’s son went on to be a police commissioner. Lol

Re: Vito Genovese son

by B. » Wed Apr 16, 2025 1:17 pm

I imagine they also wanted to avoid unwanted attention. Can understand a grieving family not wanting to broadcast "SON OF VITO GENOVESE" when their loved one dies as that's a whole different level of attention than the usual obscure obits guys like us discuss.

Re: Vito Genovese son

by JakeTheSnake630 » Wed Apr 16, 2025 1:06 pm

There's no mention of Vito or Anna named in the obit, so I assume maybe he wasn't proud or did not want the fathers judgement passed on to him. Not sure the status of Vito's daughter and step daughter.

Re: Vito Genovese son

by B. » Wed Apr 16, 2025 1:03 pm

Raven wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 11:17 am
B. wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 10:18 am He's mentioned in FBI reports as Vito's son and described as an accountant. Nothing to suggest he was involved in actual mafia activity but being Vito's son he mingled with Genovese figures.

Vito's brother Carmine was made with the Genovese Family and business partner of the Ebolis. Only relative I'm aware of who was a mafia member.
Was Vito’s brother Mike made?
Oh yeah, duh. Mike was of course a member as well. Carmine just came to mind because his membership is more obscure but there were sources who confirmed him as a member.

Re: Vito Genovese son

by Pmac2 » Wed Apr 16, 2025 11:28 am

geeze imagine being vito genovese kid lol. and he went on to be a normal highly respected citizen. even chins kids and all the bullshit about him shielding them. both sons got made and nephews....

Re: Vito Genovese son

by Raven » Wed Apr 16, 2025 11:17 am

B. wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 10:18 am He's mentioned in FBI reports as Vito's son and described as an accountant. Nothing to suggest he was involved in actual mafia activity but being Vito's son he mingled with Genovese figures.

Vito's brother Carmine was made with the Genovese Family and business partner of the Ebolis. Only relative I'm aware of who was a mafia member.
Was Vito’s brother Mike made?

Re: Vito Genovese son

by B. » Wed Apr 16, 2025 10:18 am

He's mentioned in FBI reports as Vito's son and described as an accountant. Nothing to suggest he was involved in actual mafia activity but being Vito's son he mingled with Genovese figures.

Vito's brother Carmine was made with the Genovese Family and business partner of the Ebolis. Only relative I'm aware of who was a mafia member.

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