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by **Pmac2** » Fri Mar 28, 2025 12:38 pm

Jerry n larry are on tape saying the winter hill gang is us. why the feds didnt want that tape out there.they carried out a number of hits for Jerry and he was the gambling bank. when he goes to jail whitey Steve and Howie owe Jerry 250k at how many points a week 1 2 idk. they borrowed the money in the late 70tys so imagine at 1 or 2 points a week 250k makes even if it was only to 1982 83

by **JakeTheSnake630** » Fri Mar 28, 2025 5:46 am

davidf1989 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 28, 2025 5:36 am
JakeTheSnake630 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 28, 2025 5:33 am
davidf1989 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 27, 2025 10:35 pm Double deal podcast has just come back. So I wonder if they will cover the bugging's of the Angiulos.

wasn't Stevie Flemmi one of the major informants that were used by the Feds to bug the Angiulos? I think that sonny Mercurio came later into the informant program. Maybe Caruana was another source that the Feds used to bug the Angulo's.
Yes Stevie Flemmi was the one who apparently drew the layout of "the dog house" aka 98 prince street so agents could plant a bug in a good spot. Whitey had not been in there nearly enough to know the layout off the top of his head.
Thanks for your response Jake. Was Somerville gang leader Howie Winter close to the Angiulo family?

From what I've read, he was friendly with them.

by **davidf1989** » Fri Mar 28, 2025 5:36 am

JakeTheSnake630 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 28, 2025 5:33 am
davidf1989 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 27, 2025 10:35 pm Double deal podcast has just come back. So I wonder if they will cover the bugging's of the Angiulos.

wasn't Stevie Flemmi one of the major informants that were used by the Feds to bug the Angiulos? I think that sonny Mercurio came later into the informant program. Maybe Caruana was another source that the Feds used to bug the Angulo's.
Yes Stevie Flemmi was the one who apparently drew the layout of "the dog house" aka 98 prince street so agents could plant a bug in a good spot. Whitey had not been in there nearly enough to know the layout off the top of his head.

Thanks for your response Jake. Was Somerville gang leader Howie Winter close to the Angiulo family?

by **JakeTheSnake630** » Fri Mar 28, 2025 5:33 am

davidf1989 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 27, 2025 10:35 pm Double deal podcast has just come back. So I wonder if they will cover the bugging's of the Angiulos.

wasn't Stevie Flemmi one of the major informants that were used by the Feds to bug the Angiulos? I think that sonny Mercurio came later into the informant program. Maybe Caruana was another source that the Feds used to bug the Angulo's.

Yes Stevie Flemmi was the one who apparently drew the layout of "the dog house" aka 98 prince street so agents could plant a bug in a good spot. Whitey had not been in there nearly enough to know the layout off the top of his head.

by **davidf1989** » Thu Mar 27, 2025 10:35 pm

Double deal podcast has just come back. So I wonder if they will cover the bugging's of the Angiulos.

wasn't Stevie Flemmi one of the major informants that were used by the Feds to bug the Angiulos? I think that sonny Mercurio came later into the informant program. Maybe Caruana was another source that the Feds used to bug the Angulo's.

by **JakeTheSnake630** » Thu Mar 27, 2025 6:21 am

Yea I've read underboss a couple times. There were hours of tapes they have to be out there somewhere. I think the audio is poor though.

by **Pmac2** » Thu Mar 27, 2025 2:49 am

The book under boss has a few transcripts. Jerry was a smart guy but those tapes killed them

by **Pmac2** » Thu Mar 27, 2025 2:48 am

Place was so corrupt

by **JakeTheSnake630** » Wed Mar 26, 2025 11:59 am

Yea it does. Lots of good footage and imagery. Man, what a time. Wish I could go back and experience one day running around Boston in the 70s.

by **PolackTony** » Wed Mar 26, 2025 8:26 am

Some great footage of the North End back in the day here.

by **JakeTheSnake630** » Wed Mar 26, 2025 5:22 am

Hey guys, I am looking for the transcripts of the Angiulo tapes. Do you think I need a FOIA request or does anyone know where to find them? Any help is greatly appreciated. By the way GBH just did a documentary on the Mass lottery. It's 4 episodes long and is pretty interesting. Episode 4 focuses on the Angiulos. Check it out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2ihy7toxDk&t=1569s

Episode 2 also has some NE OC coverage-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdQzQ3E ... ey&index=3

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