THE BLACK HAND FORUM

johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 2:55 pm

aray22 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 1:49 pm I can only imagine how invincible the sons of made guys feel on Staten Island.

It creates a lot of problems majority of them think they're John Gotti. Some real good ones tho

aray22 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 1:49 pm I can only imagine how invincible the sons of made guys feel on Staten Island.

johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 6:46 pm https://youtu.be/Fyt5umhExd0?si=L4wmECFz2dLBnMIz

Short video about a problem with Gary Gugliaro's son.

bluehouse wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2025 9:59 pm Alot of former rats on youtube have said that in their neighborhoods they had different families but most guys wanted to be gambinos.One of them said that the luchesses and the colombos were the easiest to get made in.I think thats true look at john pennessi getting made after 10 months.As for vinny madolone yes hes probably the best fighter in all the 5 families but to make the guy a captain who probably entered the life in his mid to late 40s as an associate is extremely strange.Id like to known how he started out im guessing as collections for a made guy and he made his way up from there.

Newyorkempire wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2025 8:20 pm nepotism that Dimatteo most likely had

JoePuzzles234 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2025 4:49 pm DiMatteo also comes from a connected family. He has two brothers who were Colombo members, Pasquale d. 1999 (Pennisi called him a captain some time ago) and Luca (at one point Ralph Lombardo's acting captain) as well as other relatives who were Colombo associates

SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2025 4:19 pm

chin_gigante wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:14 pm Other examples I can think of for recent quick risers in New York are Ernie Aiello and Johnny Spirito Jr. Both were on the Bonanno acting administration within a few years of being made, obviously aided by the state the family was in and who they were related to (and in Spirito's case lying about who put him there). Both also the youngest NY admin members in quite a while.

Both purely nepotism.

Dimatteo doesnt have a daddy/uncle to act for/pull for.

chin_gigante wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:14 pm Other examples I can think of for recent quick risers in New York are Ernie Aiello and Johnny Spirito Jr. Both were on the Bonanno acting administration within a few years of being made, obviously aided by the state the family was in and who they were related to (and in Spirito's case lying about who put him there). Both also the youngest NY admin members in quite a while.

Brovelli wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2025 6:18 am I do see 1977 as an outlier with so many guys who would’ve been made years ago that were held back. With Russo guys in the Colombo’s were wanting his son to be present because he didn’t remember things and they didn’t trust him. Mess is a word too far, I guess I just mean a lot of moving parts, persico being official boss until his death only a few years ago and then the transition since the 2021 arrest. Just a lot going on that could lead to some promotions that may be out of the norm as what you said earlier guys having better relationships with certain guys etc which may have helped more recent inductees. I’m not saying anything is right or wrong, just interesting that presumably more “experienced” guys were overlooked for some of these positions