by VC2 » Wed Jun 11, 2025 3:15 pm
this is such a breath of fresh air fellas. a question asked, direction given and answers given without any BS, i love it.
my question was unclear to a point, which is entirely my fault, ole brain doesnt always click these days, well most of last 2 plus years. i have used the search function a lot and it works very well. i suppose not finding much on some of these guys gives one a clue to their alleged activity. to al pilotto i was curious if indeed with local 5 he had ever tried to reassert influence after release. thought maybe something gone unread in an o'rourke report that i had missed but that settles that.
now to the others i had listed i couldnt find much in search on BH or really anywhere indicating being active in any function or rank. but they continue to pop up in conversation, on charts etc and i guess my point is it needs to be expressed that their involvement in criminality was not constant for the majority of these guys but for short periods of time related to a specific crew. so a guy like sam glorioso for example, more than likely his association with the outfit ended circa 1991 and did not continue, best we know up until his death in 2005.
however a guy like rocco lamantia may be entirely different. with his father being who he was, with the families relationships to other for better word, bridgeport families and connections he could at least be thought of as an associate possibly up until his 2017 death. so i understand that perhaps best practice is to as others have said go case by case and build best evidence and information.
last, i did not intend to start a made or not outfit discussion. i think most can agree BH in general has had enough "excitement" across the board lately, outfit debates of that kind derail faster than usain bolt. that part i wrote was obviously confusing to most and well to me when i re read. it was more to continued criminality of some of these guys.
thanks again, may have a few more names to ask about if ok.
have a good night all.
this is such a breath of fresh air fellas. a question asked, direction given and answers given without any BS, i love it.
my question was unclear to a point, which is entirely my fault, ole brain doesnt always click these days, well most of last 2 plus years. i have used the search function a lot and it works very well. i suppose not finding much on some of these guys gives one a clue to their alleged activity. to al pilotto i was curious if indeed with local 5 he had ever tried to reassert influence after release. thought maybe something gone unread in an o'rourke report that i had missed but that settles that.
now to the others i had listed i couldnt find much in search on BH or really anywhere indicating being active in any function or rank. but they continue to pop up in conversation, on charts etc and i guess my point is it needs to be expressed that their involvement in criminality was not constant for the majority of these guys but for short periods of time related to a specific crew. so a guy like sam glorioso for example, more than likely his association with the outfit ended circa 1991 and did not continue, best we know up until his death in 2005.
however a guy like rocco lamantia may be entirely different. with his father being who he was, with the families relationships to other for better word, bridgeport families and connections he could at least be thought of as an associate possibly up until his 2017 death. so i understand that perhaps best practice is to as others have said go case by case and build best evidence and information.
last, i did not intend to start a made or not outfit discussion. i think most can agree BH in general has had enough "excitement" across the board lately, outfit debates of that kind derail faster than usain bolt. that part i wrote was obviously confusing to most and well to me when i re read. it was more to continued criminality of some of these guys.
thanks again, may have a few more names to ask about if ok.
have a good night all.