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FriendofHenry wrote:

JCB1977 wrote:

FriendofHenry wrote:

JCB1977 wrote:

Lou_Para wrote:Adolph "Junior" Williams,longtime Pittsburgh gambling boss, has died at the age of 82. Junior, along with his brothers Sal and Eugene ran a numbers book in the East end of Pittsburgh under Tony Grosso. When Grosso went to prison,they took over the whole business with permission from Mike Genovese,the local Mafia Boss.

Junior was also suspected of ordering a number of murders, including that of small time Mckees Rocks bookie Robert Mancini.

Juniors daughter Carla is married to Vince Isoldi,the star of the short lived reality show "Godfather of Pittsburgh".

The other half of Tony Grosso's operation went to Bobby I

An old friend told me last year that he thought Bobby I was the Man. I have no idea.

I don't know you're friend, but Bobby I's kid and associates took over his business...they are certainly the largest operation in Western PA but the mob in the Burgh is over, nobody's kicking up to mob bosses anymore:(

Bobby I, like Tony Grosso, was never made. He had a $3 million net operation per year with numbers and sports betting. Plus, he's in his early to mid 80's

So much for what my friend had to say.

JCB1977 wrote:

FriendofHenry wrote:

JCB1977 wrote:

Lou_Para wrote:Adolph "Junior" Williams,longtime Pittsburgh gambling boss, has died at the age of 82. Junior, along with his brothers Sal and Eugene ran a numbers book in the East end of Pittsburgh under Tony Grosso. When Grosso went to prison,they took over the whole business with permission from Mike Genovese,the local Mafia Boss.

Junior was also suspected of ordering a number of murders, including that of small time Mckees Rocks bookie Robert Mancini.

Juniors daughter Carla is married to Vince Isoldi,the star of the short lived reality show "Godfather of Pittsburgh".

The other half of Tony Grosso's operation went to Bobby I

An old friend told me last year that he thought Bobby I was the Man. I have no idea.

Bobby I, like Tony Grosso, was never made. He had a $3 million net operation per year with numbers and sports betting. Plus, he's in his early to mid 80's

JCB1977 wrote:

Lou_Para wrote:Besides Mancini,Junior Williams was suspected in two other gambling related killings in the McKees Rocks area.

1) 1979 street commissioner James Goodnight (after plowing the streets of snow). Someone had laced his whiskey bottle, which he always carried in his truck, with enough cyanide to kill 70 people.

2) In July 1987, retired McKees Rocks police officer Martin T. Fitzpatrick died after he was tied to the bumper of a vehicle and dragged several blocks. This happened in the Rocks "Bottoms",and if I remember correctly,it occurred on Helen St. This was where the Coffee Pot restaurant was located and that place was a major gambling spot.
The "official" story was that Marty had hit the number for some serious money and ran his mouth ,and he was killed for the money.

As a side note, about seven years after his murder,Bobby's brother Anthony got himself beat to death at Pittsburgh Steak Company in the South side.
This didn't really have anything to do with gambling,but just him being a cardboard tough guy. He did some small time bookmaking,but was pretty much a punk.

One of the other guys at that card game was Inky Alberts...who was very close to Junior. Could have Junior been getting retribution for being sucker punched by Tony a few days after Bobby was killed?

FriendofHenry wrote:

JCB1977 wrote:

Lou_Para wrote:Adolph "Junior" Williams,longtime Pittsburgh gambling boss, has died at the age of 82. Junior, along with his brothers Sal and Eugene ran a numbers book in the East end of Pittsburgh under Tony Grosso. When Grosso went to prison,they took over the whole business with permission from Mike Genovese,the local Mafia Boss.

Junior was also suspected of ordering a number of murders, including that of small time Mckees Rocks bookie Robert Mancini.

Juniors daughter Carla is married to Vince Isoldi,the star of the short lived reality show "Godfather of Pittsburgh".

The other half of Tony Grosso's operation went to Bobby I

An old friend told me last year that he thought Bobby I was the Man. I have no idea.

JCB1977 wrote:

Lou_Para wrote:Adolph "Junior" Williams,longtime Pittsburgh gambling boss, has died at the age of 82. Junior, along with his brothers Sal and Eugene ran a numbers book in the East end of Pittsburgh under Tony Grosso. When Grosso went to prison,they took over the whole business with permission from Mike Genovese,the local Mafia Boss.

Junior was also suspected of ordering a number of murders, including that of small time Mckees Rocks bookie Robert Mancini.

Juniors daughter Carla is married to Vince Isoldi,the star of the short lived reality show "Godfather of Pittsburgh".

The other half of Tony Grosso's operation went to Bobby I

Lou_Para wrote:Besides Mancini,Junior Williams was suspected in two other gambling related killings in the McKees Rocks area.

1) 1979 street commissioner James Goodnight (after plowing the streets of snow). Someone had laced his whiskey bottle, which he always carried in his truck, with enough cyanide to kill 70 people.

2) In July 1987, retired McKees Rocks police officer Martin T. Fitzpatrick died after he was tied to the bumper of a vehicle and dragged several blocks. This happened in the Rocks "Bottoms",and if I remember correctly,it occurred on Helen St. This was where the Coffee Pot restaurant was located and that place was a major gambling spot.
The "official" story was that Marty had hit the number for some serious money and ran his mouth ,and he was killed for the money.

As a side note, about seven years after his murder,Bobby's brother Anthony got himself beat to death at Pittsburgh Steak Company in the South side.
This didn't really have anything to do with gambling,but just him being a cardboard tough guy. He did some small time bookmaking,but was pretty much a punk.

Lou_Para wrote:Adolph "Junior" Williams,longtime Pittsburgh gambling boss, has died at the age of 82. Junior, along with his brothers Sal and Eugene ran a numbers book in the East end of Pittsburgh under Tony Grosso. When Grosso went to prison,they took over the whole business with permission from Mike Genovese,the local Mafia Boss.

Junior was also suspected of ordering a number of murders, including that of small time Mckees Rocks bookie Robert Mancini.

Juniors daughter Carla is married to Vince Isoldi,the star of the short lived reality show "Godfather of Pittsburgh".

phatmatress777 wrote:Very rough area.

JCB1977 wrote:He certainly rode the reputation of Junior...I don't know him but he seemed like a joke

JCB1977 wrote:

Lou_Para wrote:Adolph "Junior" Williams,longtime Pittsburgh gambling boss, has died at the age of 82. Junior, along with his brothers Sal and Eugene ran a numbers book in the East end of Pittsburgh under Tony Grosso. When Grosso went to prison,they took over the whole business with permission from Mike Genovese,the local Mafia Boss.

Junior was also suspected of ordering a number of murders, including that of small time Mckees Rocks bookie Robert Mancini.

Juniors daughter Carla is married to Vince Isoldi,the star of the short lived reality show "Godfather of Pittsburgh".

My Mom's god daughter lives 3 doors down from Carla in Neville...beautiful area.

Lou_Para wrote:Adolph "Junior" Williams,longtime Pittsburgh gambling boss, has died at the age of 82. Junior, along with his brothers Sal and Eugene ran a numbers book in the East end of Pittsburgh under Tony Grosso. When Grosso went to prison,they took over the whole business with permission from Mike Genovese,the local Mafia Boss.

Junior was also suspected of ordering a number of murders, including that of small time Mckees Rocks bookie Robert Mancini.

Juniors daughter Carla is married to Vince Isoldi,the star of the short lived reality show "Godfather of Pittsburgh".

Lou_Para wrote:Adolph "Junior" Williams,longtime Pittsburgh gambling boss, has died at the age of 82. Junior, along with his brothers Sal and Eugene ran a numbers book in the East end of Pittsburgh under Tony Grosso. When Grosso went to prison,they took over the whole business with permission from Mike Genovese,the local Mafia Boss.

Junior was also suspected of ordering a number of murders, including that of small time Mckees Rocks bookie Robert Mancini.

Juniors daughter Carla is married to Vince Isoldi,the star of the short lived reality show "Godfather of Pittsburgh".