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Re: Boston FBI Disbands OC Squad

by aray22 » Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:09 am

Little_Al1991 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2024 8:11 am
Dave65827 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2024 2:02 pm The mob outside of NY is in its last days

Declavacantes and Philly are next within 10 years
What happened to Jersey? The demise is quite surprising because there’s still a sizeable amount of Italian American’s
Tough to find street kids in the suburbs. Historically members come from the inner city.

Re: Boston FBI Disbands OC Squad

by ng » Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:15 am

Ivan wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2024 5:51 pm
Tonyd621 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2024 5:46 pm 30 made guys seems like alot, no? If we are going by fbi information. I am not one to take the FBIs word for everything and all their boiler plate responses to the public. The most useful information is usually not shared. But 30 seems high
30 identified formally made members who are still alive, it seems like only like a dozen are still doing anything.
And of that dozen id bet less than half make more than 50% of their income on the street.

At this point the only crime they need is basically the typical quid pro quo that we see everywhere else

Re: Boston FBI Disbands OC Squad

by JoePuzzles234 » Thu Jan 09, 2025 3:48 pm

The FBI were listing 64 New England members in November 1993.

Re: Boston FBI Disbands OC Squad

by Pmac2 » Thu Jan 09, 2025 2:56 pm

50 members max peak. 1980. Ray Sr was on tape saying Jerry his underboss had 17 guys with him in boston I don't know if that ment the suburbs to revere ect. he had like 12 guys in Rhode Island then you had worcester and CT. max 40guzs

Re: Boston FBI Disbands OC Squad

by JakeTheSnake630 » Thu Jan 09, 2025 10:40 am

Ivan wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2025 9:16 am
JakeTheSnake630 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2025 7:00 am
Ivan wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:14 am
JakeTheSnake630 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2025 8:03 am I know personally some guys who do some of these things and "report" to a former WHG guy.
Georgie Boy?
No, but same area. Im sure you can guess. From what I know (which isn't much), Georgie Boy is a lower end guy. He had a store he used to hang in, not sure if she still does.
Actually no I can't guess, lol. I thought Hogan was the "boss of what's left" but I guess not?
Im not saying the guy they're working with is the boss of anything. He just has some kids running around doing some small time stuff. I wouldn't say they are doing everything on behalf of him, he's just like the OG and mentor of the neighborhood. He's been around for decades and is in that same area as Hogan. He was around the Whitey era WHG not the earlier Somerville years.

Re: Boston FBI Disbands OC Squad

by Ivan » Thu Jan 09, 2025 9:16 am

JakeTheSnake630 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2025 7:00 am
Ivan wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:14 am
JakeTheSnake630 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2025 8:03 am I know personally some guys who do some of these things and "report" to a former WHG guy.
Georgie Boy?
No, but same area. Im sure you can guess. From what I know (which isn't much), Georgie Boy is a lower end guy. He had a store he used to hang in, not sure if she still does.
Actually no I can't guess, lol. I thought Hogan was the "boss of what's left" but I guess not?

Re: Boston FBI Disbands OC Squad

by pat_marcy » Thu Jan 09, 2025 7:22 am

Cheers wiseguy

Re: Boston FBI Disbands OC Squad

by JakeTheSnake630 » Thu Jan 09, 2025 7:00 am

Ivan wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:14 am
JakeTheSnake630 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2025 8:03 am I know personally some guys who do some of these things and "report" to a former WHG guy.
Georgie Boy?
No, but same area. Im sure you can guess. From what I know (which isn't much), Georgie Boy is a lower end guy. He had a store he used to hang in, not sure if she still does.

Re: Boston FBI Disbands OC Squad

by Newyorkempire » Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:40 pm

Its up to the reader to interpret what law enforcement really means. Assume they are telling the truth yet lying. So go back 50 years, divide by 1.5, add 30 years, read two more articles, then subtract 35. After that, come on this board, read a random persons opinion and then assume he knows the truth from behind his computer screen. Understanding he may or may not be a cop you then can call your grandma and ask her what she thinks about the Mafias membership in New England. After all that, youll roughly have your answer. But remember its all about context so you may still be confused.

Re: Boston FBI Disbands OC Squad

by Wiseguy » Wed Jan 08, 2025 3:55 pm

pat_marcy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2025 2:55 pm Says in the article they have 30 made guys now compared to hundreds in their prime. Hundreds? What size was Boston at its peak then?
It was never in the hundreds. Judging by the fed figures in the 1960's to 1980s, I'd be surprised if the family was ever more than 70 members max.

Re: Boston FBI Disbands OC Squad

by pat_marcy » Wed Jan 08, 2025 2:55 pm

Says in the article they have 30 made guys now compared to hundreds in their prime. Hundreds? What size was Boston at its peak then?

Re: Boston FBI Disbands OC Squad

by AnIrishGuy » Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:25 am

JakeTheSnake630 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2025 8:03 am
AnIrishGuy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 1:05 am It always surprised me that the remnants of Winter Hill didn't reorganise a bit post Bulger / Connolly and in light of the decimation of LCN in the 90s. A bit like NJ for Italian Americans, Boston retains a major Irish influence and ethnic population, with a fair bit of continuing immigration from this side of the Atlantic.

I suppose the answer must be that the kids are also getting their education and doing better things - but even to this day a fair few of the Irish American neighbourhoods in the Boston area are not particularly affluent and still quite working class, which I would have thought would be fertile breeding ground for OC.

Anyway, not really a question just a rambling thought from me!
I think drugs and gentrification played a big role in that. Even looking at crews in 90s were getting strung out. I think the last 25 years a large amount of guys have gotten into drugs and never were able to be in a place where they can actually operate organized. There are def guys in Southie and Charlestown still that have books, loans, and sell drugs but its on a smaller level. I know personally some guys who do some of these things and "report" to a former WHG guy. But it's small time.
Very interesting, thanks!

Re: Boston FBI Disbands OC Squad

by Ivan » Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:14 am

JakeTheSnake630 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2025 8:03 am I know personally some guys who do some of these things and "report" to a former WHG guy.
Georgie Boy?

Re: Boston FBI Disbands OC Squad

by JakeTheSnake630 » Wed Jan 08, 2025 8:03 am

AnIrishGuy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 1:05 am It always surprised me that the remnants of Winter Hill didn't reorganise a bit post Bulger / Connolly and in light of the decimation of LCN in the 90s. A bit like NJ for Italian Americans, Boston retains a major Irish influence and ethnic population, with a fair bit of continuing immigration from this side of the Atlantic.

I suppose the answer must be that the kids are also getting their education and doing better things - but even to this day a fair few of the Irish American neighbourhoods in the Boston area are not particularly affluent and still quite working class, which I would have thought would be fertile breeding ground for OC.

Anyway, not really a question just a rambling thought from me!
I think drugs and gentrification played a big role in that. Even looking at crews in 90s were getting strung out. I think the last 25 years a large amount of guys have gotten into drugs and never were able to be in a place where they can actually operate organized. There are def guys in Southie and Charlestown still that have books, loans, and sell drugs but its on a smaller level. I know personally some guys who do some of these things and "report" to a former WHG guy. But it's small time.

Re: Boston FBI Disbands OC Squad

by AnIrishGuy » Tue Jan 07, 2025 1:05 am

It always surprised me that the remnants of Winter Hill didn't reorganise a bit post Bulger / Connolly and in light of the decimation of LCN in the 90s. A bit like NJ for Italian Americans, Boston retains a major Irish influence and ethnic population, with a fair bit of continuing immigration from this side of the Atlantic.

I suppose the answer must be that the kids are also getting their education and doing better things - but even to this day a fair few of the Irish American neighbourhoods in the Boston area are not particularly affluent and still quite working class, which I would have thought would be fertile breeding ground for OC.

Anyway, not really a question just a rambling thought from me!

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