by PolackTony » Tue Nov 26, 2024 1:58 pm
HairyKnuckles wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2024 1:41 pm
PolackTony wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2024 11:41 am
Really excellent synopsis here, Chin. Yet again, we are all in your debt.
chin_gigante wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:00 am
- Jimmy Ida’s parents were from the north of Italy
I haven’t read the book yet myself, so I don’t know if Campi referenced a source for this claim, or if he was just piggybacking off of what Wikipedia has for Ida. Wikipedia has the unsourced claim that Ida’s parents were both form Lombardia. I had looked into this myself a while back and concluded that it was totally false. Presuming that I had the right people, which I believe I did,
Jimmy Ida’s parents were both born in NYC to Southern Ital families. His paternal grandparents were from Scilla, Reggio Calabria while his maternal family, surname Quaranto, was from Matera province, Basilicata. Wikipedia has also had guys like Aniello Dellacroce and Fish Cafaro as being of Northern Ital heritage, also erroneously.
Tony, an early Genovese member was named Joseph Ida. I suspect this Joseph Ida to be the more known Ida brothers´ father or possibly grand father. Do you remember the name of their father? If the old member Joseph Ida indeed was their father or grand father it makes it more unlikely that the Idas had roots in Lombardia. No early NY Mafia members, to my knowledge, had roots in the northen parts of Italy.
I’d have to go back and look at some notes and such, which I’m not able to now. But Jimmy and Joe Ida’s dad was named Giuseppe/Joseph Idà, born around 1915 in NYC to Calabrian parents, again if I am correct on the genealogy here.
Idà is a distinctively Calabrese surname and not a very common one (I believe it is of Greek derivation and derived from the Greek word eidos, “image”, as is the related Calabrian surname Idone). Also worth noting that Philly boss Giuseppe Idà was from Fiumara, which directly neighbors Scilla, where these Idàs were from. The area is of course historically a major center of the Calabrian Camorra/‘ndrangheta.
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Really excellent synopsis here, Chin. Yet again, we are all in your debt.
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- Jimmy Ida’s parents were from the north of Italy
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I haven’t read the book yet myself, so I don’t know if Campi referenced a source for this claim, or if he was just piggybacking off of what Wikipedia has for Ida. Wikipedia has the unsourced claim that Ida’s parents were both form Lombardia. I had looked into this myself a while back and concluded that it was totally false. Presuming that I had the right people, which I believe I did, [b]Jimmy Ida’s parents[/b] were both born in NYC to Southern Ital families. His paternal grandparents were from Scilla, Reggio Calabria while his maternal family, surname Quaranto, was from Matera province, Basilicata. Wikipedia has also had guys like Aniello Dellacroce and Fish Cafaro as being of Northern Ital heritage, also erroneously.
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Tony, an early Genovese member was named Joseph Ida. I suspect this Joseph Ida to be the more known Ida brothers´ father or possibly grand father. Do you remember the name of their father? If the old member Joseph Ida indeed was their father or grand father it makes it more unlikely that the Idas had roots in Lombardia. No early NY Mafia members, to my knowledge, had roots in the northen parts of Italy.
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I’d have to go back and look at some notes and such, which I’m not able to now. But Jimmy and Joe Ida’s dad was named Giuseppe/Joseph Idà, born around 1915 in NYC to Calabrian parents, again if I am correct on the genealogy here.
Idà is a distinctively Calabrese surname and not a very common one (I believe it is of Greek derivation and derived from the Greek word eidos, “image”, as is the related Calabrian surname Idone). Also worth noting that Philly boss Giuseppe Idà was from Fiumara, which directly neighbors Scilla, where these Idàs were from. The area is of course historically a major center of the Calabrian Camorra/‘ndrangheta.