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gohnjotti wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2024 8:20 am

bluehouse wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2024 5:01 am

CabriniGreen wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 9:52 pm

Tonyd621 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 6:19 am There has to be more financially lucrative crimes to commit here in the states, no? Traveling internationally to transport some coke and weed seems like a reach. Then again Spears seems like the type of guy that is almost thrilled when he gets arrested with some guys who have vowels in their name.

Lol. They say it was the Italian guys idea. Why are they trying to smuggle like, a load of drugs that seem fit for somewhere like Maryland to the UK of all places?
That's too small a load for the risk.....with no subterfuge beyond rich privilege? Silly stuff....

And what is the deal with private planes exactly?
Is the expectation for a search thst low? I'm too broke to know how thst shit works. If it's that easy, why arnt cartels and terrorist just chartering planes by the dozen? Or are they?


Also, it's funny how so many assume gangs don't maintain ranks and hierarchies.

These guys most likely werent big traffickers with connections to a plug.They were probably going to go to the uk for other reasons and they had friends who told them since your coming just bring as much coke and weed with you .So they bought all they could handle.

The wiretap Jerry cited indicates this - Petrosillo was attempting to round up other customers who might need stuff delivered to the U.K.

OcSleeper wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 6:42 am Thanks for posting.

Shame there was no word on if Petrosillo was connected or what Bonanno and Gambino ties Spears has.

CabriniGreen wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 11:04 pm

OcSleeper wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 10:30 pm There's been an uptick in trafficking from North America to elsewhere due to low prices caused by high supply right now. 500lbs of weed and 27lbs of coke isn't exactly a small supply.

International trafficking of weed is just silly. It's too bulky. Why do you think the cartels shifted to producing it here instead of trying to push it across the border?

And that's what....10 kilos of coke? That they probably bought wholesale in NY? It's really that much cheaper to buy in NY wholesale than going through the Albanians who source it direct from Colombia??

I've never heard of Amsterdam to NY bulk loads of weed. So yeah, it's a little weird to me to see international loads of illegal weed. Hash I could see.....

Louis_Brasi wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 9:58 am Anyone have more info on how Nine-Trey is structured? Seems from that convo between Spears and Perna that they’re pretty tightly organized.

bluehouse wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2024 5:01 am

CabriniGreen wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 9:52 pm

Tonyd621 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 6:19 am There has to be more financially lucrative crimes to commit here in the states, no? Traveling internationally to transport some coke and weed seems like a reach. Then again Spears seems like the type of guy that is almost thrilled when he gets arrested with some guys who have vowels in their name.

Lol. They say it was the Italian guys idea. Why are they trying to smuggle like, a load of drugs that seem fit for somewhere like Maryland to the UK of all places?
That's too small a load for the risk.....with no subterfuge beyond rich privilege? Silly stuff....

And what is the deal with private planes exactly?
Is the expectation for a search thst low? I'm too broke to know how thst shit works. If it's that easy, why arnt cartels and terrorist just chartering planes by the dozen? Or are they?


Also, it's funny how so many assume gangs don't maintain ranks and hierarchies.

These guys most likely werent big traffickers with connections to a plug.They were probably going to go to the uk for other reasons and they had friends who told them since your coming just bring as much coke and weed with you .So they bought all they could handle.

gohnjotti wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 3:17 am I don't know what the disagreement is. I don't know if anyone is arguing this scheme was smart, nor that Petrosillo was smart.

bluehouse wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2024 5:01 am

CabriniGreen wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 9:52 pm

Tonyd621 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 6:19 am There has to be more financially lucrative crimes to commit here in the states, no? Traveling internationally to transport some coke and weed seems like a reach. Then again Spears seems like the type of guy that is almost thrilled when he gets arrested with some guys who have vowels in their name.

Lol. They say it was the Italian guys idea. Why are they trying to smuggle like, a load of drugs that seem fit for somewhere like Maryland to the UK of all places?
That's too small a load for the risk.....with no subterfuge beyond rich privilege? Silly stuff....

And what is the deal with private planes exactly?
Is the expectation for a search thst low? I'm too broke to know how thst shit works. If it's that easy, why arnt cartels and terrorist just chartering planes by the dozen? Or are they?


Also, it's funny how so many assume gangs don't maintain ranks and hierarchies.

These guys most likely werent big traffickers with connections to a plug.They were probably going to go to the uk for other reasons and they had friends who told them since your coming just bring as much coke and weed with you .So they bought all they could handle.

CabriniGreen wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 9:52 pm

Tonyd621 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 6:19 am There has to be more financially lucrative crimes to commit here in the states, no? Traveling internationally to transport some coke and weed seems like a reach. Then again Spears seems like the type of guy that is almost thrilled when he gets arrested with some guys who have vowels in their name.

Lol. They say it was the Italian guys idea. Why are they trying to smuggle like, a load of drugs that seem fit for somewhere like Maryland to the UK of all places?
That's too small a load for the risk.....with no subterfuge beyond rich privilege? Silly stuff....

And what is the deal with private planes exactly?
Is the expectation for a search thst low? I'm too broke to know how thst shit works. If it's that easy, why arnt cartels and terrorist just chartering planes by the dozen? Or are they?


Also, it's funny how so many assume gangs don't maintain ranks and hierarchies.

Blunts wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 11:47 am

Pmac2 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 6:46 am I'm a masshole. there's weed all over the place here and basically all new england except I think CT. were allowed to grow it outside and if you know what your doing can grow great bud. the value plummeted around here. even in stores I think you can buy 8th for 20 bucks never mind it's harvest season so your neighbor probaly sitting on 2 3pounds he grew in his backyard. usally gives it away or barters... I figured down south it's legal to but I seen a recent gambino bust they were bringing pounds from nyc to Florida. money's money. and the private jet thing I remember a few years ago you could rent one for 10k and go anywhere in the USA. I. guessing to go to England probaly double I'm assuming. 250k tax free drug deal isn't nothing to sneeze at that's a pay day in my book. never mind all the other deals the guys had going on. would make a great movie or short book lol a hooker, the blood, and wiseguy. sting written all over it....

Exactly. There was nothing too crazy about what when on here. I happens daily. These guys were not exactly low key with all the pictures they were taking and have poor risk assessments but the profits were there to be taken. Short term gains to get you by. The price of American weed in the UK and Amsterdam is totally ridiculous when you consider the over supply the UK and Canada have right now its very attractive.

So to the amazement of some, people do in fact smuggle large amounts of weed to the UK in this day and age.

Pmac2 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 6:46 am I'm a masshole. there's weed all over the place here and basically all new england except I think CT. were allowed to grow it outside and if you know what your doing can grow great bud. the value plummeted around here. even in stores I think you can buy 8th for 20 bucks never mind it's harvest season so your neighbor probaly sitting on 2 3pounds he grew in his backyard. usally gives it away or barters... I figured down south it's legal to but I seen a recent gambino bust they were bringing pounds from nyc to Florida. money's money. and the private jet thing I remember a few years ago you could rent one for 10k and go anywhere in the USA. I. guessing to go to England probaly double I'm assuming. 250k tax free drug deal isn't nothing to sneeze at that's a pay day in my book. never mind all the other deals the guys had going on. would make a great movie or short book lol a hooker, the blood, and wiseguy. sting written all over it....

Pmac2 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 6:46 am I'm a masshole. there's weed all over the place here and basically all new england except I think CT. were allowed to grow it outside and if you know what your doing can grow great bud. the value plummeted around here. even in stores I think you can buy 8th for 20 bucks never mind it's harvest season so your neighbor probaly sitting on 2 3pounds he grew in his backyard. usally gives it away or barters... I figured down south it's legal to but I seen a recent gambino bust they were bringing pounds from nyc to Florida. money's money. and the private jet thing I remember a few years ago you could rent one for 10k and go anywhere in the USA. I. guessing to go to England probaly double I'm assuming. 250k tax free drug deal isn't nothing to sneeze at that's a pay day in my book. never mind all the other deals the guys had going on. would make a great movie or short book lol a hooker, the blood, and wiseguy. sting written all over it....

CabriniGreen wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 4:13 am

gohnjotti wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 3:17 am I don't know what the disagreement is. I don't know if anyone is arguing this scheme was smart, nor that Petrosillo was smart.

Bro.... you took the words outta my mouth. I don't know why Blunts is so mad.

I just asked...number 1.... why planes, why NOT the mail? Number 2, why Liverpool? And number 3, there are lucrative alternatives to this "Cali weed" that these dudes seem to tunnel vision over. Like the BC bud the Bonnanos were DRIVING DOWN from Canada. Or the Oklahoma stuff.

It's nothing to get insulting or personal over. I'm really just criticizing this Italian for having access to such resources and being a bone head. Dudes are going from Cali to Chicago getting caught up, but an INTERNATIONAL flight is somehow....better? Somehow less risky? The money is worth it? Not at that markup.

What....250, 350$? It's the same markup as sending the stuff to fuckin Atlanta or wherever.....

Shit let's trade then... send me some of that good Moroccan.....

gohnjotti wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 3:17 am I don't know what the disagreement is. I don't know if anyone is arguing this scheme was smart, nor that Petrosillo was smart.