by Wiseguy » Fri Sep 20, 2024 4:45 am
7digits wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 6:08 pmYour nuts man. You keep saying confirmed members but that’s not by the feds it’s only your confirmation based on information you have access to. If you were in the FBI OC Squad in Buffalo I’m sure your list of made members in Buffalo would be much longer. Just like you have the underboss off the family describing on tape that he was just made underboss in Florida and that the family has about 30 members. Unless you’re saying he’s making that entire story up which makes 0 sense
You're going on assumptions without looking at the collective evidence. In 2006, the FBI had the family at 23 members. Since that time, 15 known members have died. Violi's "30 guys" statement is a data point but you can't look at it in isolation. If you honestly think Buffalo has made over 20 new members over that time period, not only to get back to where they were in 2006, but get to over 30 members to warrant Violi's claim, I don't know what to tell you.
As much as people have tried to overhype the Violi bust and the cases around Bongiovanni, Buffalo really hasn't been a hotbed of mob activity over the past 25 years. Since 2000, there have been a grand total of
two made guys indicted, one in Buffalo and one in Canada. That's comparable to places like Rochester (2), NE PA (1), Pittsburgh (1), Detroit (2), Kansas City (3), and Tampa (2) over the same time period.
And isn't it interesting that not a
single additional member can be positively named beyond the 11 we know of. Which, by the way, makes much more sense mathematically with the membership estimates over the years and the members who have died than Violi's 30+ figure. Seriously, what family has two-thirds of it's membership unknown and flying under the radar?
Until some of you guys learn to differentiate between a Mafia family and individual remnants of such engaged residual crimes, you will forever be playing catch up. in You're simply out of your depth.
[quote=7digits post_id=283904 time=1726794526 user_id=8600]Your nuts man. You keep saying confirmed members but that’s not by the feds it’s only your confirmation based on information you have access to. If you were in the FBI OC Squad in Buffalo I’m sure your list of made members in Buffalo would be much longer. Just like you have the underboss off the family describing on tape that he was just made underboss in Florida and that the family has about 30 members. Unless you’re saying he’s making that entire story up which makes 0 sense
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You're going on assumptions without looking at the collective evidence. In 2006, the FBI had the family at 23 members. Since that time, 15 known members have died. Violi's "30 guys" statement is a data point but you can't look at it in isolation. If you honestly think Buffalo has made over 20 new members over that time period, not only to get back to where they were in 2006, but get to over 30 members to warrant Violi's claim, I don't know what to tell you.
As much as people have tried to overhype the Violi bust and the cases around Bongiovanni, Buffalo really hasn't been a hotbed of mob activity over the past 25 years. Since 2000, there have been a grand total of [i]two[/i] made guys indicted, one in Buffalo and one in Canada. That's comparable to places like Rochester (2), NE PA (1), Pittsburgh (1), Detroit (2), Kansas City (3), and Tampa (2) over the same time period.
And isn't it interesting that not a [i]single[/i] additional member can be positively named beyond the 11 we know of. Which, by the way, makes much more sense mathematically with the membership estimates over the years and the members who have died than Violi's 30+ figure. Seriously, what family has two-thirds of it's membership unknown and flying under the radar?
Until some of you guys learn to differentiate between a Mafia family and individual remnants of such engaged residual crimes, you will forever be playing catch up. in You're simply out of your depth.