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PaddyWhack wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 3:02 pm Same guy?

https://www.sfchronicle.com/restaurants ... 493896.php

JoePuzzles234 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 1:18 am

PaddyWhack wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 3:02 pm

JoePuzzles234 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:25 pm Possible DOB for member Michael Esposito

b. 08/06/1945

Same guy?

https://www.sfchronicle.com/restaurants ... 493896.php

Came across that article as well, thought it may have been him at first but it's a different guy.

Here's a photo of the Esposito in the article with "romantic partner" Barrett Walters.
different esposito.jpg

PaddyWhack wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 3:02 pm

JoePuzzles234 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:25 pm Possible DOB for member Michael Esposito

b. 08/06/1945

Same guy?

https://www.sfchronicle.com/restaurants ... 493896.php

JoePuzzles234 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:25 pm Possible DOB for member Michael Esposito

b. 08/06/1945

kyrieleis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 7:55 pm

trafficante wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:35 pm

davidf1989 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:19 am

PolackTony wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 9:43 pm

Antiliar wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 4:39 pm

davidf1989 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 2:17 am Hi and what do people make of this article about Johnny Rosselli?https://www.nytimes.com/1977/02/25/arch ... imony.html was his hit sanctioned by mafia leaders such as Aiuppa to prevent him from talking any more?

He was badmouthing Chicago for the Giancana hit. Aiuppa was a sensitive guy. Seriously, being part of the life means accepting it if your best friend or your brother is ordered to go.

This is also reflected in Fratianno’s account in the Crime Inc documentary, where he recalls Aiuppa meeting with him to feel him out regarding Fratianno’s feelings about the Roselli hit. The implication obviously being that if Fratianno had responded the wrong way he’d have been flattened too.

Another thing to keep in mind with Roselli is that Bompensiero had previously reported to the FBI that Roselli was in major hot water already for having had his lawyer type up an account of something and give it to Frank LaPorte at a meeting. LaPorte was enraged by this as he felt that Roselli could’ve endangered him if LE found the paper and he reported Roselli to Chicago’s Council. LaPorte was, of course, Roselli’s capodecina and told Bompensiero that Roselli’s fate was in the hands of the Council. Clearly they voted against clipping Roselli at that time but he would’ve been on very thin ice thereafter; in the immortal words of Frank Calabrese Sr: “they don’t tell ya a third time”.

Regarding Aiuppa being a sensitive guy, Frank Culotta stated that you didn’t even want to be in his presence as he’d “have a ham sandwich whacked”. Makes me think also of the story from Frank Calabrese Jr’s book where he recounts that Aiuppa put a hit out on Frank’s maternal uncle and President of the HERE union Ed Hanley, allegedly for loudly badmouthing Italians in public during a drunken rant at a Loop bar. Supposedly Aiuppa was so incensed that he was personally present in a car trailing the hit team who was stalking Hanley so that he could see it go down (per Frank Jr they never got Hanley in a position to kill him and called the hit off). The insult would’ve presumably been very personal to Aiuppa, as Hanley allegedly owed his position as HERE President to Aiuppa.

Thanks for your message and was Frank Laporte involved with Bompensiero and Fratianno in a trucking operation?

Frank LaPorte was involved (at least from what I've read) in Fratianno's trucking company Fratianno Trucking as an investor. Fratianno described him and Bompensiero talking to LaPorte about the merits of the trucking industry and later explained that LaPorte had secured a $225,000 loan in order to buy sixteen trucks, eight of which went to Fratianno (the others went to Frank's son-in-law Tony Franze and his brother-in-law Jimmy Ross.) Bompensiero was on the payroll of Fratianno Trucking according to Fratianno and Bomp would often accompany LaPorte and Fratianno to trips to Reno when LaPorte came to town.

Very good info, trafficante. Is there perhaps a source for this, such as a book or article? Thanks
- Kyrieleis

trafficante wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:35 pm

davidf1989 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:19 am

PolackTony wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 9:43 pm

Antiliar wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 4:39 pm

davidf1989 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 2:17 am Hi and what do people make of this article about Johnny Rosselli?https://www.nytimes.com/1977/02/25/arch ... imony.html was his hit sanctioned by mafia leaders such as Aiuppa to prevent him from talking any more?

He was badmouthing Chicago for the Giancana hit. Aiuppa was a sensitive guy. Seriously, being part of the life means accepting it if your best friend or your brother is ordered to go.

This is also reflected in Fratianno’s account in the Crime Inc documentary, where he recalls Aiuppa meeting with him to feel him out regarding Fratianno’s feelings about the Roselli hit. The implication obviously being that if Fratianno had responded the wrong way he’d have been flattened too.

Another thing to keep in mind with Roselli is that Bompensiero had previously reported to the FBI that Roselli was in major hot water already for having had his lawyer type up an account of something and give it to Frank LaPorte at a meeting. LaPorte was enraged by this as he felt that Roselli could’ve endangered him if LE found the paper and he reported Roselli to Chicago’s Council. LaPorte was, of course, Roselli’s capodecina and told Bompensiero that Roselli’s fate was in the hands of the Council. Clearly they voted against clipping Roselli at that time but he would’ve been on very thin ice thereafter; in the immortal words of Frank Calabrese Sr: “they don’t tell ya a third time”.

Regarding Aiuppa being a sensitive guy, Frank Culotta stated that you didn’t even want to be in his presence as he’d “have a ham sandwich whacked”. Makes me think also of the story from Frank Calabrese Jr’s book where he recounts that Aiuppa put a hit out on Frank’s maternal uncle and President of the HERE union Ed Hanley, allegedly for loudly badmouthing Italians in public during a drunken rant at a Loop bar. Supposedly Aiuppa was so incensed that he was personally present in a car trailing the hit team who was stalking Hanley so that he could see it go down (per Frank Jr they never got Hanley in a position to kill him and called the hit off). The insult would’ve presumably been very personal to Aiuppa, as Hanley allegedly owed his position as HERE President to Aiuppa.

Thanks for your message and was Frank Laporte involved with Bompensiero and Fratianno in a trucking operation?

Frank LaPorte was involved (at least from what I've read) in Fratianno's trucking company Fratianno Trucking as an investor. Fratianno described him and Bompensiero talking to LaPorte about the merits of the trucking industry and later explained that LaPorte had secured a $225,000 loan in order to buy sixteen trucks, eight of which went to Fratianno (the others went to Frank's son-in-law Tony Franze and his brother-in-law Jimmy Ross.) Bompensiero was on the payroll of Fratianno Trucking according to Fratianno and Bomp would often accompany LaPorte and Fratianno to trips to Reno when LaPorte came to town.

davidf1989 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:19 am

PolackTony wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 9:43 pm

Antiliar wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 4:39 pm

davidf1989 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 2:17 am Hi and what do people make of this article about Johnny Rosselli?https://www.nytimes.com/1977/02/25/arch ... imony.html was his hit sanctioned by mafia leaders such as Aiuppa to prevent him from talking any more?

He was badmouthing Chicago for the Giancana hit. Aiuppa was a sensitive guy. Seriously, being part of the life means accepting it if your best friend or your brother is ordered to go.

This is also reflected in Fratianno’s account in the Crime Inc documentary, where he recalls Aiuppa meeting with him to feel him out regarding Fratianno’s feelings about the Roselli hit. The implication obviously being that if Fratianno had responded the wrong way he’d have been flattened too.

Another thing to keep in mind with Roselli is that Bompensiero had previously reported to the FBI that Roselli was in major hot water already for having had his lawyer type up an account of something and give it to Frank LaPorte at a meeting. LaPorte was enraged by this as he felt that Roselli could’ve endangered him if LE found the paper and he reported Roselli to Chicago’s Council. LaPorte was, of course, Roselli’s capodecina and told Bompensiero that Roselli’s fate was in the hands of the Council. Clearly they voted against clipping Roselli at that time but he would’ve been on very thin ice thereafter; in the immortal words of Frank Calabrese Sr: “they don’t tell ya a third time”.

Regarding Aiuppa being a sensitive guy, Frank Culotta stated that you didn’t even want to be in his presence as he’d “have a ham sandwich whacked”. Makes me think also of the story from Frank Calabrese Jr’s book where he recounts that Aiuppa put a hit out on Frank’s maternal uncle and President of the HERE union Ed Hanley, allegedly for loudly badmouthing Italians in public during a drunken rant at a Loop bar. Supposedly Aiuppa was so incensed that he was personally present in a car trailing the hit team who was stalking Hanley so that he could see it go down (per Frank Jr they never got Hanley in a position to kill him and called the hit off). The insult would’ve presumably been very personal to Aiuppa, as Hanley allegedly owed his position as HERE President to Aiuppa.

Thanks for your message and was Frank Laporte involved with Bompensiero and Fratianno in a trucking operation?

PolackTony wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 9:43 pm

Antiliar wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 4:39 pm

davidf1989 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 2:17 am Hi and what do people make of this article about Johnny Rosselli?https://www.nytimes.com/1977/02/25/arch ... imony.html was his hit sanctioned by mafia leaders such as Aiuppa to prevent him from talking any more?

He was badmouthing Chicago for the Giancana hit. Aiuppa was a sensitive guy. Seriously, being part of the life means accepting it if your best friend or your brother is ordered to go.

This is also reflected in Fratianno’s account in the Crime Inc documentary, where he recalls Aiuppa meeting with him to feel him out regarding Fratianno’s feelings about the Roselli hit. The implication obviously being that if Fratianno had responded the wrong way he’d have been flattened too.

Another thing to keep in mind with Roselli is that Bompensiero had previously reported to the FBI that Roselli was in major hot water already for having had his lawyer type up an account of something and give it to Frank LaPorte at a meeting. LaPorte was enraged by this as he felt that Roselli could’ve endangered him if LE found the paper and he reported Roselli to Chicago’s Council. LaPorte was, of course, Roselli’s capodecina and told Bompensiero that Roselli’s fate was in the hands of the Council. Clearly they voted against clipping Roselli at that time but he would’ve been on very thin ice thereafter; in the immortal words of Frank Calabrese Sr: “they don’t tell ya a third time”.

Regarding Aiuppa being a sensitive guy, Frank Culotta stated that you didn’t even want to be in his presence as he’d “have a ham sandwich whacked”. Makes me think also of the story from Frank Calabrese Jr’s book where he recounts that Aiuppa put a hit out on Frank’s maternal uncle and President of the HERE union Ed Hanley, allegedly for loudly badmouthing Italians in public during a drunken rant at a Loop bar. Supposedly Aiuppa was so incensed that he was personally present in a car trailing the hit team who was stalking Hanley so that he could see it go down (per Frank Jr they never got Hanley in a position to kill him and called the hit off). The insult would’ve presumably been very personal to Aiuppa, as Hanley allegedly owed his position as HERE President to Aiuppa.