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Re: The Genovese Family by Andy Petepiece (rant)

by SonnyBlackstein » Sun Aug 18, 2024 3:00 pm

Just read a Wiki page on Andy that he's first cousins with Scott Burnstein.

Re: The Genovese Family by Andy Petepiece (rant)

by Stroccos » Sun Aug 18, 2024 11:48 am

Snakes wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 3:10 pm Maybe someone should FOIA Cataldo and see if it even comes back with a hit.
the feds said there was no records of Cataldo

Re: The Genovese Family by Andy Petepiece (rant)

by jmack » Sun Aug 18, 2024 8:30 am

Russell wrote: ↑Sun Aug 18, 2024 3:07 am The chin book guess worse every time I read it. We're these guys so down low that no one can deep dive Ernie's younger years, tony ducks crew, ally persico jr, baldy dom. All I read on these guys is generic stuff. I feel like being from long island I know more gossip ( from semi reliable sources) on the persicos
Was never a fan of that book, but they are appealing to the largest demographic possible. The vast majority of the public can’t name the five families, let alone the “interesting” capos and soldiers in each family. That’s why I rarely read mainstream books anymore. There is far better research being done on this forum.

Re: The Genovese Family by Andy Petepiece (rant)

by Russell » Sun Aug 18, 2024 3:07 am

The chin book guess worse every time I read it. We're these guys so down low that no one can deep dive Ernie's younger years, tony ducks crew, ally persico jr, baldy dom. All I read on these guys is generic stuff. I feel like being from long island I know more gossip ( from semi reliable sources) on the persicos

Re: The Genovese Family by Andy Petepiece (rant)

by Cheech » Fri May 10, 2024 3:48 am

You had to know it would be bad. His GL articles are trash.

What does andy say about augie cataldo?

Re: The Genovese Family by Andy Petepiece (rant)

by JeremyTheJew » Thu May 09, 2024 9:00 pm

Is this an actual book or one of those internet pamphlets that are just called books ???

Re: The Genovese Family by Andy Petepiece (rant)

by BeatiPaoli » Thu May 09, 2024 6:57 pm

To Everyone:

I cannot tell you how disappointed I am to learn this.

Regards,
BeatiPaoli

Re: The Genovese Family by Andy Petepiece (rant)

by Ivan » Thu May 09, 2024 3:50 pm

John W wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2024 11:00 am
JohnnyS wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2024 10:13 am So is he a scam artist that couldn't give a shit about his reputation and is only interested in ripping off his readers or has he gone senile?

Even a simple google search of who the past and current Genovese bosses wouldn't give you that DiMarco name. Has he noted the name down years ago from when it was on wiki? Does he not have Jerry's number to verify some of this stuff? Bizarre. :lol:
There are so many mistakes across all the books I think it’s just general incompetence
It's incompetence, I don't think Asky Andy is acting with malice. Being given the Capeci seal of approval (Ask Andy has been on Gangland since the 90s, when I was still a teenaged in the late 90s I wrote and asked him if Joe Bonanno was still alive and he wrote back to tell me that Bonanno was indeed still kicking -- me and Ask Andy go way back :lol: ) might be giving him delusions about his own competency.

Re: The Genovese Family by Andy Petepiece (rant)

by John W » Thu May 09, 2024 11:00 am

JohnnyS wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2024 10:13 am So is he a scam artist that couldn't give a shit about his reputation and is only interested in ripping off his readers or has he gone senile?

Even a simple google search of who the past and current Genovese bosses wouldn't give you that DiMarco name. Has he noted the name down years ago from when it was on wiki? Does he not have Jerry's number to verify some of this stuff? Bizarre. :lol:
There are so many mistakes across all the books I think it’s just general incompetence

Re: The Genovese Family by Andy Petepiece (rant)

by JohnnyS » Thu May 09, 2024 10:13 am

So is he a scam artist that couldn't give a shit about his reputation and is only interested in ripping off his readers or has he gone senile?

Even a simple google search of who the past and current Genovese bosses wouldn't give you that DiMarco name. Has he noted the name down years ago from when it was on wiki? Does he not have Jerry's number to verify some of this stuff? Bizarre. :lol:

Re: The Genovese Family by Andy Petepiece (rant)

by Ivan » Wed May 08, 2024 3:30 pm

I still can't get over the fact that there are now physical books sitting in libraries that mention Paulie "Stripes" DeMarco in them and that people are gonna be dusting them off in 2100, reading them, and thinking Stripes is legit. :|

Re: The Genovese Family by Andy Petepiece (rant)

by Snakes » Wed May 08, 2024 3:10 pm

Maybe someone should FOIA Cataldo and see if it even comes back with a hit.

Re: The Genovese Family by Andy Petepiece (rant)

by B. » Wed May 08, 2024 3:00 pm

I will always respect and support Capeci but along these lines he published a eulogy for that guy Augie Cataldo who has only been publicly ID'd on Pinterest and called him a Genovese captain, a former member of the Rampers, and a relative of the other Cataldos with the Colombo and Lucchese Families. Some of us, myself included, trusted Capeci on it and it seemed like for once Pinterest bullshit was right.

Cheech emailed him about it and Capeci acted like the Cataldo thing never happened and it was quietly removed from the article. Did he really just copy some info from Pinterest or what?

As for the Cataldo guy, you'll see him and his son mentioned online as Genovese members and relatives of the Genovese Romanos but I don't think anything has ever come out identifying him as a member let alone a captain. There are however photos of him with at least one of the Romanos so I don't know the real story on him or who is responsible for putting his name/face online but Capeci's handling of it was rough.

Re: The Genovese Family by Andy Petepiece (rant)

by Ivan » Wed May 08, 2024 2:06 pm

B. wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 1:32 pm As for Ask Andy, a lot of fun was had when Ivan seemingly got him "whacked". I don't even remember what it was about. Some mistake about Carmine Galante? But then Capeci pulled him back in.
There was like five easily-checked mistakes in one article (I think one was mixing up the years Scarfo Jr. got shot and Salvie Testsa got whacked) and I went through and pointed them out in a list. (They were just things I noticed off the top of my head too and since I'm a lot more "casual" about this hobby than many of you guys, it was probably even worse than what I found.) Cheech took the list straight to Capeci who wrote him back and said that we'd never see Andy on Gangland again. He did in fact vanish for a while but resurfaced some time later when he and Capeci started flogging his shitty books.

But fucking Paulie Stripes? In a real, published, "true crime" book and not some internet thing? Are you fucking kidding me? Makes me want to go check my prescription medications and make sure they haven't expired. This is unreal.

Re: The Genovese Family by Andy Petepiece (rant)

by B. » Wed May 08, 2024 1:32 pm

Yeah, ol' Paulie Stripes was a big joke on the RealDeal. Wikipedia was still fairly new then and people didn't know to be skeptical so we'd get a lot of people asking about him.

As for Ask Andy, a lot of fun was had when Ivan seemingly got him "whacked". I don't even remember what it was about. Some mistake about Carmine Galante? But then Capeci pulled him back in.

I'd like to support anyone who sincerely tries to cover mafia history but I've never understood where Capeci found him or what makes him a resource on the subject.

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