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Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by NorthBuffalo » Mon Sep 16, 2024 11:29 am

Tonyd621 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2024 7:11 pm You mean this sweet old place? Murders occurred there? Lol

https://www.chicagotribune.com/1986/06/ ... lting-pot/
Gino Marino who is quoted was one of DiFronzo's guys.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Tonyd621 » Sun Sep 15, 2024 7:11 pm

You mean this sweet old place? Murders occurred there? Lol

https://www.chicagotribune.com/1986/06/ ... lting-pot/

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by NorthBuffalo » Sun Sep 15, 2024 5:51 pm

Patrickgold wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2024 3:02 pm
NorthBuffalo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2024 9:08 am
NorthBuffalo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2024 5:57 am Interesting background as that name was all over Fosco's forum. I'm told Tony Spavone was commenting for a long time there bc Fosco would mock him (not sure his pseudonym). You can see this clip of his restaurant from the 1990s and a clip of his old man about halfway in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Fp5MIr8wSo
I cannot delete this post but see the link was shared earlier by Tony - sorry for that. :cry: Great background guys - really interesting stuff.
Remind me what Fosco said about Tony Spavone?
He said Tony Spavone was all over Burnstein's Outfit lists and it was 'laughable' - he framed Spavone as kind of a wannabe. He did lend credibility to Spavone's restaurant as being a location of a secret making ceremony that DiFronzo and Carlisi jointly presided over. He acted as if Spavone was an Artie Buco type just constantly catering to people who took advantage of him.

Fosco also indicated the old Maroons Club in Elmwood Park as being a location multiple members were 'made' in. He noted several Outfit members told him they were fortunate the FBI never searched or did DNA tests in the Maroons Club as several murders occurred there.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Patrickgold » Fri Sep 13, 2024 3:02 pm

NorthBuffalo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2024 9:08 am
NorthBuffalo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2024 5:57 am Interesting background as that name was all over Fosco's forum. I'm told Tony Spavone was commenting for a long time there bc Fosco would mock him (not sure his pseudonym). You can see this clip of his restaurant from the 1990s and a clip of his old man about halfway in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Fp5MIr8wSo
I cannot delete this post but see the link was shared earlier by Tony - sorry for that. :cry: Great background guys - really interesting stuff.
Remind me what Fosco said about Tony Spavone?

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by funkster » Fri Sep 13, 2024 12:58 pm

Ivan wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2024 11:18 am
Coloboy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2024 11:10 am Yep, your post about Louis Rainone and ANP inspired me for sure. Thanks for sharing the search format, that is awesome!! I would have had no idea how to do that. This will be fun.
The comment sections are often like a mile long, but if you're on Chrome you can press Ctr + F and type in whatever you're looking for Chrome will take you straight to it in the wall of text. Like if click on the link that the search string I gave above, then click on Ctrl + F and search for "Lou Rainone" (don't use quotes for this) it will scroll right to where it is instantly. Probably the same thing works on other browsers, not sure though.

The site has a built-in search engine but it looks like it doesn't search the comments and doesn't work with Boolean operators either. Fucking useless!
I was going to say, the commenting system on the interface he used on that website is such a fucking disaster.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Ivan » Fri Sep 13, 2024 11:18 am

Coloboy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2024 11:10 am Yep, your post about Louis Rainone and ANP inspired me for sure. Thanks for sharing the search format, that is awesome!! I would have had no idea how to do that. This will be fun.
The comment sections are often like a mile long, but if you're on Chrome you can press Ctr + F and type in whatever you're looking for Chrome will take you straight to it in the wall of text. Like if click on the link that the search string I gave above, then click on Ctrl + F and search for "Lou Rainone" (don't use quotes for this) it will scroll right to where it is instantly. Probably the same thing works on other browsers, not sure though.

The site has a built-in search engine but it looks like it doesn't search the comments and doesn't work with Boolean operators either. Fucking useless!

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Coloboy » Fri Sep 13, 2024 11:10 am

Yep, your post about Louis Rainone and ANP inspired me for sure. Thanks for sharing the search format, that is awesome!! I would have had no idea how to do that. This will be fun.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Ivan » Fri Sep 13, 2024 11:07 am

Coloboy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2024 10:55 am I think it's about time for another dive into Fosco's ANP forums. It's been years since I looked around. It's interesting to go back in with greater knowledge gained on the outfit because you see names that you had no idea who they were when you read them originally in like 2010/2011, and now you're like "holy shit, they were talking about Louis Rainone in 2010!"
You saw the thing I posted earlier, about how Fosco saying in 2010 that he was the only Rainone brother capable of murder, right? I found it with a targeted Boolean operator search using Google for "Lou Rainone" as I saw people elsewhere on the internet calling him that instead of "Louie" and "Louis".

Here's the search format. Just the name in quotes plus a site indicator thingy: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22lou+ ... wspost.com

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Coloboy » Fri Sep 13, 2024 10:55 am

I think it's about time for another dive into Fosco's ANP forums. It's been years since I looked around. It's interesting to go back in with greater knowledge gained on the outfit because you see names that you had no idea who they were when you read them originally in like 2010/2011, and now you're like "holy shit, they were talking about Louis Rainone in 2010!"

That, and the totally epic, spot on, ball busting. So polite on the surface, but seething with so much anger. "I understand your point, Horseyfart, and appreciate your contributions, but I would encourage you to place a sharp object up your rectum."

(that's not a real quote but very in the spirit of how they engaged with each other) :)

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by NorthBuffalo » Fri Sep 13, 2024 9:08 am

NorthBuffalo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2024 5:57 am Interesting background as that name was all over Fosco's forum. I'm told Tony Spavone was commenting for a long time there bc Fosco would mock him (not sure his pseudonym). You can see this clip of his restaurant from the 1990s and a clip of his old man about halfway in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Fp5MIr8wSo
I cannot delete this post but see the link was shared earlier by Tony - sorry for that. :cry: Great background guys - really interesting stuff.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by NorthBuffalo » Fri Sep 13, 2024 5:57 am

Interesting background as that name was all over Fosco's forum. I'm told Tony Spavone was commenting for a long time there bc Fosco would mock him (not sure his pseudonym). You can see this clip of his restaurant from the 1990s and a clip of his old man about halfway in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Fp5MIr8wSo

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by cavita » Fri Sep 13, 2024 5:32 am

PolackTony wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:14 pm
Snakes wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2024 6:20 pm
cavita wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2024 6:17 pm
Snakes wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2024 5:03 pm
cavita wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2024 4:24 pm Can anyone fill in any of the redacted parts in this 1993 OC file on Chicago? I do know the one that mentions Oak Park and River Forest is Carmine Esposito but how about the others? Particularly the one involved with John Cerone, Jr.
The one associated with Cerone Jr. may be Tony Spavone's father. I remember Tony saying he had ties to Italian OC, but I can't remember if it was Mafia or Camorra.
But was he a capo in Nuova Famiglia with residences in Brooklyn and Chicago?
Ah, may not be him, then.
I’ve written a couple of times about Camorrista Antonio Spavone, Tony Spavone’s uncle and namesake. He was like an elder statesman of sorts for the “Nuova Famiglia” (the media moniker for the Nuova Fratallenza Napolitana) and had close ties to both Chicago and NYC (specifically, to Funzi Tieri and Cerone) and lived in the US for a number of years. I’ve discussed this previously, but he was almost certainly the redacted name that Cavita is inquiring about in the 1993 FBI IOC in IL report:
PolackTony wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 12:18 pm
There is info in this thread about Spavone and Chicago, if you're interested. He was most likely identified by the FBI in 1993 as a redacted "capo" of the "Nuova Famiglia" with ties to Chicago LCN. After he was shot in the 1970s he traveled to the US for reconstructive surgeries. I was able to confirm that he spent at least part of that time in Chicago, where he seems to have owned a restaurant, as did his brother, Giuseppe Spavone. Nephew Tony Spavone is a very well-known Chicago restauranteur and singer with mob ties, with it even being rumored that his restaurant was used for making ceremonies in the past. The thread also discusses Carmine Esposito, a fugitive from Acerra captured in Chicago who was said to have been one of the principal figures in the NCO.

viewtopic.php?f=29&t=7151&p=233553&hili ... ne#p233553
Thanks buddy, I was wondering why I never saw your original post on this and then I looked at the date- I was on vacation during that time!

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by PolackTony » Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:48 pm

Snakes wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:29 pm Thanks, Tony -- so he was a Camorra guy
Yes. He was a very well-known figure back in Naples. Antonio Spavone, ‘o malommo (“the badman”, a nickname he had inherited from his elder brother Carmine Spavone, who was killed in a feud in Naples when they were younger). His younger brother was Giuseppe Spavone, father of the Chicagoland singing restaurateur Tony Spavone. If anyone is interested in more, check out the link to the Chicago “zips” thread that I posted above.

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Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Snakes » Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:29 pm

Thanks, Tony -- so he was a Camorra guy

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by PolackTony » Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:14 pm

Snakes wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2024 6:20 pm
cavita wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2024 6:17 pm
Snakes wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2024 5:03 pm
cavita wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2024 4:24 pm Can anyone fill in any of the redacted parts in this 1993 OC file on Chicago? I do know the one that mentions Oak Park and River Forest is Carmine Esposito but how about the others? Particularly the one involved with John Cerone, Jr.
The one associated with Cerone Jr. may be Tony Spavone's father. I remember Tony saying he had ties to Italian OC, but I can't remember if it was Mafia or Camorra.
But was he a capo in Nuova Famiglia with residences in Brooklyn and Chicago?
Ah, may not be him, then.
I’ve written a couple of times about Camorrista Antonio Spavone, Tony Spavone’s uncle and namesake. He was like an elder statesman of sorts for the “Nuova Famiglia” (the media moniker for the Nuova Fratallenza Napolitana) and had close ties to both Chicago and NYC (specifically, to Funzi Tieri and Cerone) and lived in the US for a number of years. I’ve discussed this previously, but he was almost certainly the redacted name that Cavita is inquiring about in the 1993 FBI IOC in IL report:
PolackTony wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 12:18 pm
There is info in this thread about Spavone and Chicago, if you're interested. He was most likely identified by the FBI in 1993 as a redacted "capo" of the "Nuova Famiglia" with ties to Chicago LCN. After he was shot in the 1970s he traveled to the US for reconstructive surgeries. I was able to confirm that he spent at least part of that time in Chicago, where he seems to have owned a restaurant, as did his brother, Giuseppe Spavone. Nephew Tony Spavone is a very well-known Chicago restauranteur and singer with mob ties, with it even being rumored that his restaurant was used for making ceremonies in the past. The thread also discusses Carmine Esposito, a fugitive from Acerra captured in Chicago who was said to have been one of the principal figures in the NCO.

viewtopic.php?f=29&t=7151&p=233553&hili ... ne#p233553

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