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Re: Buddy Luongo was never the boss. Tony Ducks ordered his death

by TSNYC » Thu Jul 18, 2024 4:18 pm

Little_Al1991 wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:32 am
NorthBuffalo wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:20 am Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Corallo from East Harlem? It's surprising he sides with Brooklyn guys over the Bronx in that respect. I wonder if the tension between those two factions within the Lucchese family was created this long ago and never really simmered since.
I’ve read that he’s from East Harlem but have not seen a source to back it up

What we know about Corallo’s reign is slim. Our knowledge pertaining to the transition from Corallo to Amuso is murky. According to D’Arco, Casso told him that Santoro was plotting against Corallo in order to take the family from him.

There has been some tension between them but in my opinion, it has not been major. There have been some notable moments such as George Zappola plotting to kill Stevie Crea on a sneak hit but this did not spill over into a civil war and it seems as if Zappola’s actions stem from a plot which Lastorino or Casso orchestrated, I cannot remember who it was specifically

NYTimes obituary:

Anthony Corallo, Mob Boss, Dies in Federal Prison at 87



By ALAN FEUER



SEPT. 1, 2000



Anthony Corallo, the salty and stoical former boss of the Lucchese crime family who went to jail for life after the authorities overheard him chatting to his driver about the mob's control of New York City's construction industry, died Aug. 23 in a federal prison hospital in Springfield, Mo. He was 87.



Mr. Corallo, who was serving a 100-year sentence, was said to be the oldest living gangster to have risen from one of the city's five organized crime families. He was a sitting member of the Mafia politburo, known as the commission, when he was arrested in 1985. A year later, he was found guilty on federal racketeering charges at what came to be known as the commission trial -- a 10-week smorgasbord of gangland lore that resulted in the conviction of the city's top crime leaders. It also paved the way for a new era of crime leader, a more rough-and-tumble crew of underlings, like John Gotti, who dressed in a flashy way and seemed to bask in the limelight.



Mr. Corallo, known to mobsters and federal agents alike as Tony Ducks -- because of his knack for ducking subpoenas and convictions -- was widely regarded as an old-time don, a crusty but gentle son of La Cosa Nostra, who believed in honor, staked his reputation on his word, adored his family and considered loose lips a treachery worse than murder.



It was in some ways curious, then, that investigators captured hours of conversation between him and his driver, Salvatore Avellino Jr., by planting a listening device inside the dashboard of Mr. Avellino's black Jaguar as it sat in a parking lot of the Huntington Town House, a Long Island catering hall, in 1982.



The taped conversations became one of the primary building blocks of the federal case against Mr. Corallo and two other Mafia bosses -- Anthony Salerno of the Genovese family, who was known as Fat Tony, and Carmine Persico of the Colombo family, known as Junior -- as well as five other gangland counselors and underbosses.



Among the more dramatic allegations against Mr. Corallo and some of his co-defendants was the charge of conspiracy to murder Carmine Galante, the head of the Bonanno family, and two associates in 1979. They were killed in a hail of gunfire as they ate lunch on the patio of a Brooklyn restaurant.



The commission trial, which opened in Federal District Court in Manhattan on Sept. 9, 1986, and ended on Nov. 19, 1986, was a sort of Waterloo for the New York mob. No previous trial had ever focused directly on the highest levels of Mafia leadership, and some investigators have said that the five families never truly recovered.



Anthony Corallo was born in 1913 and raised in East Harlem, where he worked, at least for a while, as a tile-setter. He rose in the ranks of a Lucchese family that was governed at the time by Gaetano, or Tommy, Lucchese, whose illicit businesses from gambling and loan-sharking to truck hijacking and labor racketeering were centered in the Bronx. When Mr. Lucchese died of cancer in 1967, Mr. Corallo was the early favorite to be his successor.



But Mr. Corallo did not immediately get the job. He was in prison for bribing James L. Marcus, then the New York City water commissioner, in exchange for contracts to clean and repair parts of the city's enormous water reservoir system. Carmine Tramunti was installed as the Lucchese boss, but when Mr. Tramunti himself was arrested a few years later, Mr. Corallo took over.



Mr. Corallo's reign atop the Lucchese family was marked by an interest in labor racketeering, particularly in the private trash-hauling business and in million-dollar Manhattan construction projects. According to federal wiretap transcripts, Mr. Avellino once told his boss that they were being followed in the car, probably because the authorities believed that Mr. Corallo controlled the toxic-waste disposal industry. Mr. Corallos gave a simple response. ''They're right,'' he said.



By all accounts, Mr. Corallo continued the Lucchese family's longstanding penchant for shying away from the limelight. In a time when a mob boss's suit could light up a room, he was given to wearing gray cardigan sweaters, one former investigator said.



Michael Chertoff, the lead prosecutor on the commission trial, who later became the United States attorney for New Jersey, said Mr. Corallo was as stoical as they came. ''He was very impassive in court, unlike some of the other defendants, who, at least, would kid around a bit,'' he said. ''He sat there like one of these big stone idols.''



According to Ronald Goldstock, the former director of the New York State organized crime task force who spent nearly a year listening to the secret tapes from Mr. Avellino's car, Mr. Corallo never really became acclimated to the flashier world of the mob that emerged in the 1980's.



''At the time he ascended,'' Mr. Goldstock said, ''bosses tended to be insulated, prison sentences were fairly minimal and people who rose to his level were tested. They were trained and they were proven. But by the time the 80's rolled around everything had changed. The new people didn't grow out of the gangs of Little Italy or Brooklyn. They were untested and untrained.''



Friends of Mr. Corallo, who spoke on the condition that they not be named, said he enjoyed pasta, opera and working in the garden outside his home in Oyster Bay Cove, on Long Island. They said he cherished his privacy and that his family was the dearest thing to him in the world. They would not provide any information about his survivors, a son and a daughter.

Re: Buddy Luongo was never the boss. Tony Ducks ordered his death

by Little_Al1991 » Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:32 am

NorthBuffalo wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:20 am Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Corallo from East Harlem? It's surprising he sides with Brooklyn guys over the Bronx in that respect. I wonder if the tension between those two factions within the Lucchese family was created this long ago and never really simmered since.
I’ve read that he’s from East Harlem but have not seen a source to back it up

What we know about Corallo’s reign is slim. Our knowledge pertaining to the transition from Corallo to Amuso is murky. According to D’Arco, Casso told him that Santoro was plotting against Corallo in order to take the family from him.

There has been some tension between them but in my opinion, it has not been major. There have been some notable moments such as George Zappola plotting to kill Stevie Crea on a sneak hit but this did not spill over into a civil war and it seems as if Zappola’s actions stem from a plot which Lastorino or Casso orchestrated, I cannot remember who it was specifically

Re: Buddy Luongo was never the boss. Tony Ducks ordered his death

by NorthBuffalo » Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:20 am

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Corallo from East Harlem? It's surprising he sides with Brooklyn guys over the Bronx in that respect. I wonder if the tension between those two factions within the Lucchese family was created this long ago and never really simmered since.

Re: Buddy Luongo was never the boss. Tony Ducks ordered his death

by Little_Al1991 » Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:49 am

B. wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 10:18 pm According to a January 1987 FBI source found by LCNBios, another reason given for Luongo's murder two months previous was that he sponsored or inducted Donato Christiano without approval from the administration in Fall 1985. Christiano was himself murdered in 1987.

Either way it's clear the "Amuso killed Luongo because Amuso BAD" narrative is bullshit, as usual. Luongo was staging a powerplay and possibly sponsoring people into the Family on his own.
That’s quite interesting because it appears that, from what we know, Luongo did actually have a good chance of becoming boss.
He was a Capo who was close with Tom Mix who was the Underboss at that time.
No idea as to why he would induct someone without approval

There could have been problems between Tom Mix and Tony Ducks but that’s speculation from me

Re: Buddy Luongo was never the boss. Tony Ducks ordered his death

by Little_Al1991 » Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:40 am

Pmac2 wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 6:00 pm refused to come in. the guy ran away to cali and they still wanted to kill him. thats so crazy and vengefull. other familys even chin must have been impressed with that hit. i think amuso and casso were already indicted and running from the windows rico case. how much of a threat to vic an gas was the guy?
DiLapi was one of the plotters against Corallo
Santoro apparently spearheaded the move and brought in Luongo,Salerno and DiLapi
Amuso wanted DiLapi to meet him and out everything on record but he sold what he had and fled

I don’t think they killed him because they saw him as a threat, he was killed for not coming in when called
Just like Louie DiBono

Re: Buddy Luongo was never the boss. Tony Ducks ordered his death

by Ivan » Wed Jul 17, 2024 10:30 pm

B. wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 10:18 pm Either way it's clear the "Amuso killed Luongo because Amuso BAD" narrative is bullshit, as usual.
I've always seen this framed as Amuso being the "degenerate next generation" who killed the designated of the wise old Godfather Tony Ducks.

In reality, Ducks ordered the hit and the biggest difference between Ducks and Vic is that one was born earlier; they were both pretty much the same kind of murdery criminal.

Re: Buddy Luongo was never the boss. Tony Ducks ordered his death

by B. » Wed Jul 17, 2024 10:18 pm

According to a January 1987 FBI source found by LCNBios, another reason given for Luongo's murder two months previous was that he sponsored or inducted Donato Christiano without approval from the administration in Fall 1985. Christiano was himself murdered in 1987.

Either way it's clear the "Amuso killed Luongo because Amuso BAD" narrative is bullshit, as usual. Luongo was staging a powerplay and possibly sponsoring people into the Family on his own.

Re: Buddy Luongo was never the boss. Tony Ducks ordered his death

by Ivan » Wed Jul 17, 2024 8:12 pm

SonnyBlackstein wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 8:45 am I also think its HIGHLY relevant that Chin not only never made a move but respected Amuso vs trying to have Gotti clipped for whacking a boss. The answer is right there
I can't believe I never thought of this. This is the best point/post you've ever made dude, hats off. 8-)

Re: Buddy Luongo was never the boss. Tony Ducks ordered his death

by Pmac2 » Wed Jul 17, 2024 6:00 pm

refused to come in. the guy ran away to cali and they still wanted to kill him. thats so crazy and vengefull. other familys even chin must have been impressed with that hit. i think amuso and casso were already indicted and running from the windows rico case. how much of a threat to vic an gas was the guy?

Re: Buddy Luongo was never the boss. Tony Ducks ordered his death

by Little_Al1991 » Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:57 pm

Pmac2 wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:53 pm IMO it was orderd by tony ducks. he had some falling out with tommy mix when or after there indicted in the commission case. christy tick also strongly advised ducks to select amuso and casso. interesting. amuso and casso killed tommy mix nephew in california. in 1990. that was crazy to chase him and still send shooters to cali. guy misr have been a threat in there eyes
Santoro’s nephew was Anthony DiLapi who was killed because he refused to come in when called
As per the documents, it seems as if Corallo ordered it or at the very least had some sort of knowledge about Luongo’s downfall

Re: Buddy Luongo was never the boss. Tony Ducks ordered his death

by Pmac2 » Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:53 pm

IMO it was orderd by tony ducks. he had some falling out with tommy mix when or after there indicted in the commission case. christy tick also strongly advised ducks to select amuso and casso. interesting. amuso and casso killed tommy mix nephew in california. in 1990. that was crazy to chase him and still send shooters to cali. guy misr have been a threat in there eyes

Re: Buddy Luongo was never the boss. Tony Ducks ordered his death

by SonnyBlackstein » Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:25 pm

chin_gigante wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 8:55 am
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 8:45 am Wasn't buddy Christy Tics boy? Corallo had him clipped as they were making a move.
Luongo was a Bronx guy aligned with Santoro
Appreciate the correction (all).

It would make sense that
a) Corallo ordered it in response to Santoro
or
b) Vic was the boss and ordered it himself for whatever reason.

What makes zero sense is Chin not giving a F, if Buddy was the boss, but then trying to have Gotti clipped for literally the exact same thing.

Lets hope Vic flips and clears this up for us. :D

Re: Buddy Luongo was never the boss. Tony Ducks ordered his death

by johnny_scootch » Wed Jul 17, 2024 9:28 am

Little_Al1991 wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 9:17 am That’s a great point Sonny. I don’t know as to why that was not given any thought by others who believed that Luongo was the boss and then killed
It was given thought and was brought up possibly by Sonny or others in previous discussions on this very topic. If the board search function wasn't a disaster I'd post a link.

Re: Buddy Luongo was never the boss. Tony Ducks ordered his death

by Little_Al1991 » Wed Jul 17, 2024 9:17 am

SonnyBlackstein wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 8:45 am Wasn't buddy Christy Tics boy? Corallo had him clipped as they were making a move.

I also think its HIGHLY relevant that Chin not only never made a move but respected Amuso vs trying to have Gotti clipped for whacking a boss. The answer is right there
Furnari was with Vic and Gas but interestingly enough, Furnari was close with Michael Salerno who was a powerful Capo within the Bronx. Vic and Gas ordered his death in 1990. His nephew, Skinny Frank Salerno is currently a Capo

That’s a great point Sonny. I don’t know as to why that was not given any thought by others who believed that Luongo was the boss and then killed

Re: Buddy Luongo was never the boss. Tony Ducks ordered his death

by johnny_scootch » Wed Jul 17, 2024 9:11 am

jmack wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 8:57 am
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 8:45 am Wasn't buddy Christy Tics boy? Corallo had him clipped as they were making a move.

I also think its HIGHLY relevant that Chin not only never made a move but respected Amuso vs trying to have Gotti clipped for whacking a boss. The answer is right there
Vic and Casso came up under Christy Tic, I believe.
Yes, Gas was Christy Ticks right arm and Vic was right there with him just like Buddy was for Tom Mix.

The whole 'mythical figure' comment is so on point, people would talk about him like he was Mickey Mantle or Babe Ruth. In a way people never spoke of guys like Corallo or Persico or any of the top guys around that time and I have no idea why or what it was about him that inspired such reverence and awe.

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