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it seems that junior Gotti didn't like Danny Marino or Watts very much according to this article https://www.thechicagosyndicate.com/200 ... g.html?m=1

was Marino a Castellano loyalist or something?

Tonyd621 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2024 6:16 am

Pmac2 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2024 2:55 am surprised the story about jr getting stabbed on long Island never came out. it happened idk 5-7 yr ago. Definitely wouldn't have happened if he wasn't on the shelf. rite in those 302s jr says joe watts says his first piece of work was 1980 with Sr. on Vito borelli. that puts alot in place and clears up alot of rumors there no way jr tells the feds that isn't 100 percent true implicating your own father that's crazy

Wasn't the stabbing when he got involved when 2 citizens were fighting?

i don't believe that story. I'm sure most reasonable ppl think it probably wassnt breaking up a fight.

Junior has also done plenty of interviews and discussed his induction ceremony etc. he said it “wouldn’t surprise him” if his dad did have the neighbor murdered. And he sat down with the fbi. I’m not big on the obsession with the term “rat” but he’s been shelved, he’s spoken publicly about the mob and gave info to the fbi so label it what you will but it’s a combination of a guy who’s broken a good few rules lol

Pmac2 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2024 2:55 am surprised the story about jr getting stabbed on long Island never came out. it happened idk 5-7 yr ago. Definitely wouldn't have happened if he wasn't on the shelf. rite in those 302s jr says joe watts says his first piece of work was 1980 with Sr. on Vito borelli. that puts alot in place and clears up alot of rumors there no way jr tells the feds that isn't 100 percent true implicating your own father that's crazy

Wasn't the stabbing when he got involved when 2 citizens were fighting?

surprised the story about jr getting stabbed on long Island never came out. it happened idk 5-7 yr ago. Definitely wouldn't have happened if he wasn't on the shelf. rite in those 302s jr says joe watts says his first piece of work was 1980 with Sr. on Vito borelli. that puts alot in place and clears up alot of rumors there no way jr tells the feds that isn't 100 percent true implicating your own father that's crazy

it looks like he mentioned Pete Gotti according to his 302 https://www.cosanostranews.com/2015/01/ ... e_vignette

It's pretty simple, if you're a criminal and you sit down and offer informatiom to the police, you're a rat. Doesn't matter if nobody went to jail.

CornerBoy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 5:09 am he was chased, correct?

He also had a "moment of weakness" and proffered

he can he show his face in howard bch, Ozone Park, Woodhaven etc?

jr and his siblings all seem to be complete morons. He and Peter were both bullies who would 7 on 1 ppl.

Thoughts

Thanks for the fresh topic from 2 decades ago lol

yeah labarca had nothing to do with jr.
the Gottis owned a ton of commercial properties. oi heard they sold off a ton tho.
Petes kid just a spoiled HB kid like the rest. no need to get involved in anything. he wouldve had a comfortable life. but hes young so we do dumb shit when we are young.
They all know whats going on. wives/kids/parents.. the babe in the woods act is bullshit a la Goodfellas lol.like Angelo Gurinos kid. they like the real estate barons of queens and they sold pills together so what chance does he have you know.
i had family in dyker years ago. a lot more in marine park

CornerBoy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 7:43 am queensnyer, i think there are varying degrees, not that i give a shit abbout that kind of shit anymore.

seems like the only good financial decisions sr made were regarding buying jr the company and real estate. I'm sure Carmine made him some good legit investments.

Peter was worst, no? abusing ppl etc.

his kid polluting the nabe w opiates out of the house where he grew up. the kid couldnt;ve kept it a secret from victoria sr and his dad, Peter.

Howard Bch seems like it wouldve been better to grow up in rather than Dyker.

All I know about HB is my cousins who live there and what Ive read.

aside from the bar sstaabbing and posssibly LaBarca???

What about LaBarca? The Marty Bosshart thing

queensnyer, i think there are varying degrees, not that i give a shit abbout that kind of shit anymore.

seems like the only good financial decisions sr made were regarding buying jr the company and real estate. I'm sure Carmine made him some good legit investments.

Peter was worst, no? abusing ppl etc.

his kid polluting the nabe w opiates out of the house where he grew up. the kid couldnt;ve kept it a secret from victoria sr and his dad, Peter.

Howard Bch seems like it wouldve been better to grow up in rather than Dyker.

All I know about HB is my cousins who live there and what Ive read.

aside from the bar sstaabbing and posssibly LaBarca???

its tough to say. peter was a tough guy legit. but yeah if your name is Gotti in Howard Beach or Ozone Park while they were growing up your not gonna have a lot of guys willing to fight back. Junior killed, its known on the streets. killing isnt something anyone can do. Did he feel invincible because of his dad. maybe??? who knows. that is why its a tough thing. Peter fought tough guys, Juniors beefs were with his associates or non street guys.
as far as showing his face? i havent seen him around here but who am i?im not inner circle anything. he might be popping in and out. He still owns property around ozone park. I see Pete out and about all the time. RAT? who knows he was chased apparently, maybe he proffered. but he stood up on 3 trials for his life and kept his mouth shut so i dont know if i would go that far as calling him a rat. is there a degree to it??

CornerBoy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 5:09 am he was chased, correct?

He also had a "moment of weakness" and proffered

he can he show his face in howard bch, Ozone Park, Woodhaven etc?

jr and his siblings all seem to be complete morons. He and Peter were both bullies who would 7 on 1 ppl.

Thoughts

according to this article he did have a proffer session with the Feds. https://www.cosanostranews.com/2015/01/ ... alked.html it mentions he gave up information on Danny Marino and Joe Watts. although there were rumors about Watts being an informant against Gottis according to this article http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbth ... er=1007128

According to Pennisi, he’s an informant and is currently on the shelf

he was chased, correct?

He also had a "moment of weakness" and proffered

he can he show his face in howard bch, Ozone Park, Woodhaven etc?

jr and his siblings all seem to be complete morons. He and Peter were both bullies who would 7 on 1 ppl.

Thoughts