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Re: Giosue Gallucci

by motorfab » Mon Jun 24, 2024 10:58 pm

Yes, I thought the same afterwards, maybe they are relative

Re: Giosue Gallucci

by Antiliar » Mon Jun 24, 2024 10:31 pm

Angelo Santino wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2024 10:33 am Yeah, so it maybe could have or could not have been a relative. I'm agnostic towards him because arguments could be made either way. Cammorista or guappo (I'm assuming everyone knows what I mean). He could fit in either suit. But without more info, like I said, agnostic.

I looked through the transcripts and couldn't find one instance of Gallucci being called a camorrista but I also can't find one instance of DB being called a Gambino member by John Gotti, doesn't mean its not so, so...

The Camorra in Naples was on the decline, but still was prevalent enough into the 1910's. New York City for a time outranked Naples as the city with the highest Italo population so you'd think there had to be something there during this time.
I could imagine Giosue Gallucci the Harlem boss being named after his grandfather, per Italian naming traditions. The birth and marriage records are probably online, so it's possible to make the connection if there is one.

Re: Giosue Gallucci

by Angelo Santino » Mon Jun 24, 2024 10:33 am

Yeah, so it maybe could have or could not have been a relative. I'm agnostic towards him because arguments could be made either way. Cammorista or guappo (I'm assuming everyone knows what I mean). He could fit in either suit. But without more info, like I said, agnostic.

I looked through the transcripts and couldn't find one instance of Gallucci being called a camorrista but I also can't find one instance of DB being called a Gambino member by John Gotti, doesn't mean its not so, so...

The Camorra in Naples was on the decline, but still was prevalent enough into the 1910's. New York City for a time outranked Naples as the city with the highest Italo population so you'd think there had to be something there during this time.

Re: Giosue Gallucci

by blackhander » Mon Jun 24, 2024 10:00 am

Thanks.

BTW. Who was Tony Romano? He's named as one of the gunmen who shot Gallucci. I think Dave Critchley said he was an ex-Gallucci bodyguard. But that info comes from the Pelligrino Marano trial, and I don't have copy. I've not seen Tony Romano come up in other of the Navy St trials either.

Re: Giosue Gallucci

by B. » Mon Jun 24, 2024 9:16 am

Just a note, re: Valachi saying Russomano had been a "big boss" with the "Naples gang". Valachi used similar terms about Vollero and Navy Street, that they were the "Naples" group.

Re: Giosue Gallucci

by blackhander » Mon Jun 24, 2024 9:05 am

Thank you all for the comments!
Angelo Santino wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2024 7:48 am Question, in 1862 Marc Monnier released his book La Camorra which truly withstands the test of time. In it, he mentioned a Giuseppe and Giosue Gallucci. I tried but was never able to make a connection. I believe he was asked about this and he said no relation:
I've added the pages from the 1914 Russomano trial when Gallucci was asked about family. Not sure it really clears anything up though.

(If anyone ever makes a trip to the John Jay Library in NYC, let me know. I'd like to chip in and get the rest of the pages from this trial. I only have around 20 pages right now)

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Re: Giosue Gallucci

by B. » Mon Jun 24, 2024 8:30 am

Excellent work, Jon.

Re: Giosue Gallucci

by motorfab » Mon Jun 24, 2024 8:05 am

Angelo, Monnier's book was released in 1863 (see the photo of my book attached) and Giosue Gallucci active in NY was apparently born in 1864. So it cannot be the same individual. But I also thought about it when I read the book, before checking the dates
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Great article, great job blackhander, thank you for this !

Re: Giosue Gallucci

by Angelo Santino » Mon Jun 24, 2024 7:48 am

blackhander wrote: Sun Jun 23, 2024 3:09 pm Just finished updating his biography here >

https://www.gangrule.com/biographies/giosue-gallucci
Amazing work. I agree with Rick you nailed it and put all works before it to shame.

Question, in 1862 Marc Monnier released his book La Camorra which truly withstands the test of time. In it, he mentioned a Giuseppe and Giosue Gallucci. I tried but was never able to make a connection. I believe he was asked about this and he said no relation:

1862
XV. - Giuseppe and Giosuè Gallucci.
Police Headquarters Process: "The Gallucci brothers are in the voice of the public as the most challenged of that bunch of Camorrist scammers who were surprising the good faith and tranquility of the country owners to take possession of their parlile of wine, and therefore, on pretexts of all kinds, followed quickly by threats and violence, if they refused to satisfy them. The simulated quality of wine trafficking was the means of introduction into others' places of wine storage, and with the intimacy of their readiness of hand, and of the particular relevance of their Camorra partnership, the distinction of the received merchandise was accomplished. Nor did the threats remain in mere words, when no one wished to persuade themselves of the solidity of their offer to want to make money by distorting others; but it often happened that the poor factors, in presenting themselves to collect the price of the wine, instead suffered beatings and violence such as to make them abandon any further pretension of the fulfillment of their rights."

In order to bring to their last term such overthrows there was no restraint to instill fear and to the lawyers who defended their creditors, and to the ushers who dared to intimidate the judicial documents, and to the same agents of the public force who were about to guarantee the course. of justice; and the Police Headquarters archive and filled with complaints from probi shopkeepers, who in fact had imposed themselves not to cause any harassment to the Gallucci brothers, if they preferred life to the collection of their credits.

Giuseppe and Giosuè Gallucci were ready to give their knives a hand in order to maintain the impression of their arrogance in the heart of the shy colonists of the city surroundings. They belonged to the class of camorrist stabbers and traffickers; orid 'is that their arrest protected the property of many settlers and placed the aforementioned group of scammers at risk, who possessed eminently the quality of camorra, i.e. the audacity to stick to the stuff of others, and 'to prevent others from freely exercising their rights, believing that every other principle of authority and justice should bow to the strength of their greed.

Re: Giosue Gallucci

by blackhander » Mon Jun 24, 2024 6:03 am

Antiliar wrote: Sun Jun 23, 2024 10:45 pm I'm beyond impressed. You did an amazing job. I think your article is the last word on Gallucci.
Thank you! It was an interesting project. Glad to finally find some solid proof of his connections with Tammany Hall.

Re: Giosue Gallucci

by Antiliar » Sun Jun 23, 2024 10:45 pm

blackhander wrote: Sun Jun 23, 2024 3:09 pm Just finished updating his biography here >

https://www.gangrule.com/biographies/giosue-gallucci
I'm beyond impressed. You did an amazing job. I think your article is the last word on Gallucci.

Re: Giosue Gallucci

by blackhander » Sun Jun 23, 2024 3:09 pm

Just finished updating his biography here >

https://www.gangrule.com/biographies/giosue-gallucci

Re: Giosue Gallucci

by furiofromnaples » Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:59 am

He was an independent criminal that a some point found himself with too enemies and despite be from Naples both Camorra (that want to turn to Brooklyn) and the Sicilians tried to kill him.

Re: Giosue Gallucci

by Eline2015 » Sun Apr 10, 2022 6:29 am

I understand that there is no proofs, but given his criminal background and arrests in Italy (blackmail, theft and some reports indicate an attack with a knife), there is a lot to indicate that he could be connected with the Honoured society in Naples.

Re: Giosue Gallucci

by Etna » Sun Apr 10, 2022 3:29 am

So it sounds like all he was, was an independent guy who ran a lottery that performed well?

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