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Re: Guys who "seemed" made but weren't

by BobbyPazzo » Wed Sep 11, 2024 7:14 am

johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 6:00 pm Angelo Ponte & Carmine Franco.
Uncle Ang was purposely kept from getting it to try and keep him off the radar. He held more sway than most guys that had it. Spent my whole life around that family.

Re: Guys who "seemed" made but weren't

by Newyorkempire » Tue Sep 10, 2024 11:31 am

Stroccos wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2024 9:18 am
Newyorkempire wrote: ↑Wed Aug 28, 2024 6:50 pm
Proletarian187 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 28, 2024 6:46 pm
NothingNew44 wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2024 5:30 pm
Proletarian187 wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 5:34 pm John Nardi from Cleveland.

Big name in mob history who definitely "should" have been made. I know his status has been disputed back and forth but no solid evidence on him being made iirc?
Good one. What was the reason for him being passed over again?
Bad timing, was around when Cleveland inducted pretty much no one for years. Got disgruntled and started backing Danny Greene and that was that.. I believe he was considered disrespectful and possibly uneducated on the life.
Nardi was a rat just like Greene. He had to side with him. Has nothing to do with Cleveland not inducting anyone for years or him being uneducated on the life
I don't believe Nardi was a rat , but its quite possible , I think it had to do with Leo moceri becoming the underboss and his beef with Moceri over various things
Heard from an old timer there you probably know he was. Collinwood guy. Still owns a place there today

Re: Guys who "seemed" made but weren't

by Stroccos » Tue Sep 10, 2024 9:18 am

Newyorkempire wrote: ↑Wed Aug 28, 2024 6:50 pm
Proletarian187 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 28, 2024 6:46 pm
NothingNew44 wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2024 5:30 pm
Proletarian187 wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 5:34 pm John Nardi from Cleveland.

Big name in mob history who definitely "should" have been made. I know his status has been disputed back and forth but no solid evidence on him being made iirc?
Good one. What was the reason for him being passed over again?
Bad timing, was around when Cleveland inducted pretty much no one for years. Got disgruntled and started backing Danny Greene and that was that.. I believe he was considered disrespectful and possibly uneducated on the life.
Nardi was a rat just like Greene. He had to side with him. Has nothing to do with Cleveland not inducting anyone for years or him being uneducated on the life
I don't believe Nardi was a rat , but its quite possible , I think it had to do with Leo moceri becoming the underboss and his beef with Moceri over various things

Re: Guys who "seemed" made but weren't

by JakeTheSnake630 » Fri Sep 06, 2024 9:34 am

davidf1989 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2024 8:28 am Stevie Flemmi from Boston wasn't a made man right? I thought that he had offers from Larry Baione to join the LCN but refused or something.
That is correct David

Re: Guys who "seemed" made but weren't

by davidf1989 » Wed Sep 04, 2024 8:28 am

Stevie Flemmi from Boston wasn't a made man right? I thought that he had offers from Larry Baione to join the LCN but refused or something.

Re: Guys who "seemed" made but weren't

by NJShore4Life » Tue Sep 03, 2024 9:41 am

Frank DePasquale, ESQ of Philly - Yes, He is Johnny Chang’s cousin, helps the Philly Guys with the legal work in their Real Estate Flippings, hangs out with the Philly Guys, was co -counsel for Nicodemo’s Murder Trial, and certainly likes to act like he’s straightened out but he isn’t….

-Dante

Re: Guys who "seemed" made but weren't

by jmack » Tue Sep 03, 2024 7:35 am

Frankie flowers. Media speculated he may become the boss after Bruno. Obviously, he was never made.

Re: Guys who "seemed" made but weren't

by Dapper_Don » Mon Sep 02, 2024 4:04 pm

aray22 wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2024 9:19 pm Tony Moscatiello with the Gambinos.
Thought he was made later in life

Re: Guys who "seemed" made but weren't

by Newyorkempire » Wed Aug 28, 2024 6:50 pm

Proletarian187 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 28, 2024 6:46 pm
NothingNew44 wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2024 5:30 pm
Proletarian187 wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 5:34 pm John Nardi from Cleveland.

Big name in mob history who definitely "should" have been made. I know his status has been disputed back and forth but no solid evidence on him being made iirc?
Good one. What was the reason for him being passed over again?
Bad timing, was around when Cleveland inducted pretty much no one for years. Got disgruntled and started backing Danny Greene and that was that.. I believe he was considered disrespectful and possibly uneducated on the life.
Nardi was a rat just like Greene. He had to side with him. Has nothing to do with Cleveland not inducting anyone for years or him being uneducated on the life

Re: Guys who "seemed" made but weren't

by Proletarian187 » Wed Aug 28, 2024 6:46 pm

NothingNew44 wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2024 5:30 pm
Proletarian187 wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 5:34 pm John Nardi from Cleveland.

Big name in mob history who definitely "should" have been made. I know his status has been disputed back and forth but no solid evidence on him being made iirc?
Good one. What was the reason for him being passed over again?
Bad timing, was around when Cleveland inducted pretty much no one for years. Got disgruntled and started backing Danny Greene and that was that.. I believe he was considered disrespectful and possibly uneducated on the life.

Re: Guys who "seemed" made but weren't

by CornerBoy » Tue Jun 11, 2024 4:44 am

ridgewood- never heard of those guys. very interesting.

im sure we'd all like to hear whatever you comfortable talking bout

Re: Guys who "seemed" made but weren't

by Ridgewood 79 » Mon Jun 10, 2024 8:41 am

Had many of these guys in my neighborhood ( Bushwick/Ridgewood two that come to mind is two guys around Phil rastelli one was the old man winters ( Irish guy) yeah I know he came off Italian but lots of respect growing up I always thought he was up there cause of the level of respect and tony the Indian (lnu) he was real close to rastelli and a real tough guy but never made! Yeah there was tons of these guys in that life

Re: Guys who "seemed" made but weren't

by Extortion » Tue Jun 04, 2024 7:32 pm

“Seemed to he made” ….Well did you meet any of them or see them anywhere to make a judgement? …probably not. /end speculation

Re: Guys who "seemed" made but weren't

by Adam » Fri May 24, 2024 12:06 pm

This will probably involve some debate. And I know Scott disagrees. Sorry Scott, you're awesome! But for Detroit, I still haven't seen actual evidence Nove Tocco was made. He never gave an induction ceremony description ever. And the Detroit FBI would have broadcast that. So that one I think is questionable.

Re: Guys who "seemed" made but weren't

by FriendofHenry » Wed May 22, 2024 11:04 am

Stroccos wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2024 1:00 pm
Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2024 4:50 pm If I remember right JCB claimed that Jack Licavoli made Carabbia when they were in prison together after their conviction.


Pogo
They weren’t in prison together after there conviction , they may have been in county jail for a brief spell .
Fair enough - I consider you the most knowledgeable of the old Cleveland LCN ;)

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