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[quote=SonnyBlackstein post_id=276362 time=1711865870 user_id=171]Bresico was a Captain in good standing, Polito his acting.[/quote]

Who said Brescio is no longer in good standing?

[quote]DiChiara is now that Capo and Polito is his acting? Makes zero sense.[/quote]

I'm sorry it doesn't make sense.

[quote]Barney takes Brescio down and makes Chiara capo, ok. But Chiara keeps Polito as acting? That makes sense to you? And Brescio being taken down? Why? Nope. Doesn't follow.[/quote]

Who said Brescio was taken down?

[quote=TSNYC post_id=276375 time=1711888649 user_id=7052]
I believe Brescio was capo over crew that included Carmine Polito, steve Arena, and Jimmy Rossi. Could be DiChiara crew merged with Brescio crew. But when Polito was first identified as an acting capo in that case, I figured it had to have been for Brescio.
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I think your original take was most likely correct.

We have the 1994/1995 incidents between Polito and D'Urso. From the court info below, both appear to have been in Gangi's crew at the time (Polito even making a failed attempt at one point to switch to the Malongone crew.)
https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/us-2nd-circuit/1235799.html

This above alone shows Polito was affiliated with the Gangi crew at least at some point. And according to D'Urso's testimony, the Gangi crew was later taken over by Peter DiChiara.
https://theblackhand.club/forum/viewtopic.php?p=266197&hilit=gangi+dichiara#p266197

While it may be circumstantial, the connection is further strengthened by the recent info in Polito's bail memo.
https://theblackhand.club/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12463

Some of the confusion may have stemmed from the big bust in 2001 that got Gangi, Aparo, DiChiara and many others. While some articles labeled Aparo and DiChiara as captains, others (like the one below) specified them as acting captains. It may be tempting to look at the alone and come to the conclusion they are separate crews but you have to take all the info together. Especially considering in court papers they were labeled the "Aparo/DiChiara crew."
https://www.tampabay.com/archive/2001/04/26/45-charged-in-3-state-mob-sweep/

There is only one other option I can see and it seems far less likely. Brescio's father Lawrence was in Peter DeFeo's crew, if I'm not mistaken. But other than Alexander Morelli reportedly taking over for DeFeo, there's little to nothing about that crew after the 1980s. Then John Brescio pops up around 6 years ago as a captain. Whether it's a case of being the same crew all along, or some kind of merger at some point, those seem more plausible to me than a captain/crew flying under the radar for over 30 years.

[quote=JohnnyS post_id=276373 time=1711886915 user_id=5544]
I don't think they are the same crew. I've never seen Brescio identified as a member of the DiChiara crew and the timelines don't really add up to me. Peter Lovaglio identified the main players in DiChiara's crew as Sal Demeo, Frank Demeo, Joseph DiChiara, Robert DeBello and associate Eugene Orefice who was Sal Demeo's driver and right hand man. According to Gambino associate Benny Geritano, Brescio was Steven Arena's captain in around 2011. Waterfront commission identified him as a capo in May 2017.

He also could've been a capo back in 2010 too. https://theblackhand.club/forum/viewtopic.php?p=269461#p269461
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I don't necessarily see a conflict with the timeline. As I mentioned above, Gangi was indicted as a captain, and Aparo and DiChiara acting captains, in 2001. Peter DiChiara is later identified in GL News as the street boss/consigliere in 2014, though it wasn't specified how long he had been in that position. That leaves a wide gap in between for Brescio to have taken over, even as far back as 2010/2011.

[quote=Ravens410 post_id=276336 time=1711821595 user_id=7006]
Rumor has it she was killed by a Bonnano hit squad
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I wish we had a like button!

[quote=TSNYC post_id=276375 time=1711888649 user_id=7052]
I believe Brescio was capo over crew that included Carmine Polito, steve Arena, and Jimmy Rossi. Could be DiChiara crew merged with Brescio crew. But when Polito was first identified as an acting capo in that case, I figured it had to have been for Brescio.
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I agree it's more likely it was absorbed than Brescio coming from the DiChiara crew.

I believe Brescio was capo over crew that included Carmine Polito, steve Arena, and Jimmy Rossi. Could be DiChiara crew merged with Brescio crew. But when Polito was first identified as an acting capo in that case, I figured it had to have been for Brescio.

I don't think they are the same crew. I've never seen Brescio identified as a member of the DiChiara crew and the timelines don't really add up to me. Peter Lovaglio identified the main players in DiChiara's crew as Sal Demeo, Frank Demeo, Joseph DiChiara, Robert DeBello and associate Eugene Orefice who was Sal Demeo's driver and right hand man. According to Gambino associate Benny Geritano, Brescio was Steven Arena's captain in around 2011. Waterfront commission identified him as a capo in May 2017.

He also could've been a capo back in 2010 too. https://theblackhand.club/forum/viewtopic.php?p=269461#p269461

[quote=Wiseguy post_id=276360 time=1711851522 user_id=51]
[quote=OcSleeper post_id=276359 time=1711850351 user_id=6887]
[quote=Wiseguy post_id=276351 time=1711848593 user_id=51]
[quote=artichokelove3 post_id=276347 time=1711834723 user_id=7553]
Is he still capo of that manhattan crew or is it confirmed Polito is capo now? Also, how goddamn old was his mom
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Joseph DChiara is captain. Polito acting captain.
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I know you said you're basing that off of past and present info but could you explain that? In the bail memo all it said was Polito had DiChiara's number and had been seen meeting with him. Haven't heard anything of Brescio stepping down or being taken down. Capeci also said DiChiara took over his father's crew which is separate of Brescio was it not?
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Same crew
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No offense but I don't think you know what you're talking about.

Bresico was a Captain in good standing, Polito his acting.

DiChiara is now that Capo and Polito is his acting? Makes zero sense.

Barney takes Brescio down and makes Chiara capo, ok. But Chiara keeps Polito as acting? That makes sense to you? And Brescio being taken down? Why?
Nope. Doesn't follow.

Ah okay, thanks.

[quote=OcSleeper post_id=276359 time=1711850351 user_id=6887]
[quote=Wiseguy post_id=276351 time=1711848593 user_id=51]
[quote=artichokelove3 post_id=276347 time=1711834723 user_id=7553]
Is he still capo of that manhattan crew or is it confirmed Polito is capo now? Also, how goddamn old was his mom
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Joseph DChiara is captain. Polito acting captain.
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I know you said you're basing that off of past and present info but could you explain that? In the bail memo all it said was Polito had DiChiara's number and had been seen meeting with him. Haven't heard anything of Brescio stepping down or being taken down. Capeci also said DiChiara took over his father's crew which is separate of Brescio was it not?
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Same crew

[quote=Wiseguy post_id=276351 time=1711848593 user_id=51]
[quote=artichokelove3 post_id=276347 time=1711834723 user_id=7553]
Is he still capo of that manhattan crew or is it confirmed Polito is capo now? Also, how goddamn old was his mom
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Joseph DChiara is captain. Polito acting captain.
[/quote]

I know you said you're basing that off of past and present info but could you explain that? In the bail memo all it said was Polito had DiChiara's number and had been seen meeting with him. Haven't heard anything of Brescio stepping down or being taken down. Capeci also said DiChiara took over his father's crew which is separate of Brescio was it not?

Another swing and a miss for Scott, they are stacking up. Get's nothing right, and he's charging people for this bullshit, hilarious

[quote=artichokelove3 post_id=276347 time=1711834723 user_id=7553]
Is he still capo of that manhattan crew or is it confirmed Polito is capo now? Also, how goddamn old was his mom
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Joseph DChiara is captain. Polito acting captain.

[quote=Ravens410 post_id=276336 time=1711821595 user_id=7006]
Rumor has it she was killed by a Bonnano hit squad
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Dying 😂

Is he still capo of that manhattan crew or is it confirmed Polito is capo now? Also, how goddamn old was his mom

Scott just retracted. It was the mother who died.

https://gangsterreport.com/say-goodbye-to-hollywood-westsiders-mourn-juiced-in-genovese-captain-johnny-brescios-death-in-manhattan-queens-new-jersey/