by Eline2015 » Mon Feb 26, 2024 5:36 am
AustraliaSteve wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 3:18 am
Pmac2 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 7:27 pm
69 if you ain't the boss or a capo. That convict inc guy says joe testa was like a real co and warden pet. Always talking to the guards for what it's worth
Wow, see this got me thinking. In Australian jails, if you initiate a conversation with a screw, or even engage with them too much when you have to respond, you’re considered a dog (which is what we call rats in Australia). Basically you want to do your time with as little as possible contact with the screws. Is this different in the states? Maybe because of his profile (serial killer, 30 odd years inside) he’s given a wider berth? I don’t know, just thought it was an interesting point.
We call them “cheese balls” and ostracised them if they’re friendly with the screws. They fuck with the new guys, and during lock down, after opening the cell door and closing in the prisoner, some screws will hold out their hand for a handshake. Some dumb fuck always falls for it, sees a hand and automatically shakes it, and they get fucking roasted for it.
It’s about the same thing here in Russia. There are two prison regimes: red, where power is entirely in the hands of the correctional system, and where prisoners are tortured, abused, etc. In these regimes, convicted police officers sit; and blacks, where power is supposedly in the hands of prisoners, but in reality it is not. In these black prisons, there is a kind of agreement between the administration and influential prisoners (either the thief in law or the overseer) that the prisoners will behave quietly and the authorities will not interfere in their affairs (like the Camorra in prisons under the Bourbons). In black prisons too, if you actively cooperate with the authorities, then you automatically become trash in their eyes. They are called activists (in Soviet times they had a red bandage tied to their arm). Now the situation in these prisons is changing. When Prigozhin was alive, and he went to recruit recruits to these black prisons, only a few opposed it. In prison terms, joining Wagner is the same as becoming an activist. Only in a couple of prisons did prisoners carry out stabbings because of this.
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69 if you ain't the boss or a capo. That convict inc guy says joe testa was like a real co and warden pet. Always talking to the guards for what it's worth
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Wow, see this got me thinking. In Australian jails, if you initiate a conversation with a screw, or even engage with them too much when you have to respond, you’re considered a dog (which is what we call rats in Australia). Basically you want to do your time with as little as possible contact with the screws. Is this different in the states? Maybe because of his profile (serial killer, 30 odd years inside) he’s given a wider berth? I don’t know, just thought it was an interesting point.
We call them “cheese balls” and ostracised them if they’re friendly with the screws. They fuck with the new guys, and during lock down, after opening the cell door and closing in the prisoner, some screws will hold out their hand for a handshake. Some dumb fuck always falls for it, sees a hand and automatically shakes it, and they get fucking roasted for it.
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It’s about the same thing here in Russia. There are two prison regimes: red, where power is entirely in the hands of the correctional system, and where prisoners are tortured, abused, etc. In these regimes, convicted police officers sit; and blacks, where power is supposedly in the hands of prisoners, but in reality it is not. In these black prisons, there is a kind of agreement between the administration and influential prisoners (either the thief in law or the overseer) that the prisoners will behave quietly and the authorities will not interfere in their affairs (like the Camorra in prisons under the Bourbons). In black prisons too, if you actively cooperate with the authorities, then you automatically become trash in their eyes. They are called activists (in Soviet times they had a red bandage tied to their arm). Now the situation in these prisons is changing. When Prigozhin was alive, and he went to recruit recruits to these black prisons, only a few opposed it. In prison terms, joining Wagner is the same as becoming an activist. Only in a couple of prisons did prisoners carry out stabbings because of this.