THE BLACK HAND FORUM

Snakes wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 11:21 am

Coloboy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 11:02 am

falco wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 9:36 am

Coloboy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 7:39 am It certainly makes sense that a guy with that last name, from the neighborhood we are talking about, who is involved in video poker, was connected. It’s more plausible than him being independent. I’m just surprised this was never discussed before, because it directly backs up the idea that those two crews were going head to head on the video poker thing. If Dublino was backed by Melrose Park, it makes sense that he would feel OK telling Sarno to fuck off in 2002.

You have to wonder if a guy like this is still active today and fell in line with the Cicero/Cautadella crew that runs that part of the city now

casey szflarski (daughter is married to frank carusos jr./wife is the daughter of shorty lamantia) had machines in the location where sarno ordered dublino to stay away from. he was the owner of amusments inc. in berwyn and took over the stops from m&m amusements in berwyn from james and mickey marcello after family secrets.

a bar owner from lyons testifed he had machines from szaflarski in his business for years, but then switched to dublino for a better deal. if dublino was the driver of zizzo, its possible they beefed over routes.

There certainly seemed to be a lot of tension about the video poker thing at that time. Common sense tells us it must’ve been quite lucrative.

I had a personal social family connection to the Szaflarski deal. He was a very blatant front for the Carusos/26th St. The Polack took the fall and the Italians didn’t get touched.

It came out in that investigation that he mentioned Toots by name on a phone call with Sarno and was pretty severely reprimanded.

Coloboy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 11:02 am

falco wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 9:36 am

Coloboy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 7:39 am It certainly makes sense that a guy with that last name, from the neighborhood we are talking about, who is involved in video poker, was connected. It’s more plausible than him being independent. I’m just surprised this was never discussed before, because it directly backs up the idea that those two crews were going head to head on the video poker thing. If Dublino was backed by Melrose Park, it makes sense that he would feel OK telling Sarno to fuck off in 2002.

You have to wonder if a guy like this is still active today and fell in line with the Cicero/Cautadella crew that runs that part of the city now

casey szflarski (daughter is married to frank carusos jr./wife is the daughter of shorty lamantia) had machines in the location where sarno ordered dublino to stay away from. he was the owner of amusments inc. in berwyn and took over the stops from m&m amusements in berwyn from james and mickey marcello after family secrets.

a bar owner from lyons testifed he had machines from szaflarski in his business for years, but then switched to dublino for a better deal. if dublino was the driver of zizzo, its possible they beefed over routes.

There certainly seemed to be a lot of tension about the video poker thing at that time. Common sense tells us it must’ve been quite lucrative.

I had a personal social family connection to the Szaflarski deal. He was a very blatant front for the Carusos/26th St. The Polack took the fall and the Italians didn’t get touched.

Coloboy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 11:02 am

falco wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 9:36 am

Coloboy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 7:39 am It certainly makes sense that a guy with that last name, from the neighborhood we are talking about, who is involved in video poker, was connected. It’s more plausible than him being independent. I’m just surprised this was never discussed before, because it directly backs up the idea that those two crews were going head to head on the video poker thing. If Dublino was backed by Melrose Park, it makes sense that he would feel OK telling Sarno to fuck off in 2002.

You have to wonder if a guy like this is still active today and fell in line with the Cicero/Cautadella crew that runs that part of the city now

casey szflarski (daughter is married to frank carusos jr./wife is the daughter of shorty lamantia) had machines in the location where sarno ordered dublino to stay away from. he was the owner of amusments inc. in berwyn and took over the stops from m&m amusements in berwyn from james and mickey marcello after family secrets.

a bar owner from lyons testifed he had machines from szaflarski in his business for years, but then switched to dublino for a better deal. if dublino was the driver of zizzo, its possible they beefed over routes.

There certainly seemed to be a lot of tension about the video poker thing at that time. Common sense tells us it must’ve been quite lucrative.

I had a personal social family connection to the Szaflarski deal. He was a very blatant front for the Carusos/26th St. The Polack took the fall and the Italians didn’t get touched.

falco wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 9:36 am

Coloboy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 7:39 am It certainly makes sense that a guy with that last name, from the neighborhood we are talking about, who is involved in video poker, was connected. It’s more plausible than him being independent. I’m just surprised this was never discussed before, because it directly backs up the idea that those two crews were going head to head on the video poker thing. If Dublino was backed by Melrose Park, it makes sense that he would feel OK telling Sarno to fuck off in 2002.

You have to wonder if a guy like this is still active today and fell in line with the Cicero/Cautadella crew that runs that part of the city now

casey szflarski (daughter is married to frank carusos jr./wife is the daughter of shorty lamantia) had machines in the location where sarno ordered dublino to stay away from. he was the owner of amusments inc. in berwyn and took over the stops from m&m amusements in berwyn from james and mickey marcello after family secrets.

a bar owner from lyons testifed he had machines from szaflarski in his business for years, but then switched to dublino for a better deal. if dublino was the driver of zizzo, its possible they beefed over routes.

NorthBuffalo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 1:23 pm

Snakes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 3:30 pm Name doesn't ring a bell, but Frank Ciangi was named as one of Monteleone's collectors on the West Side. He was also Monteleone's driver for a time.

Snakes I've been told by a source that he thinks Frank Ciangi is someone who was made at some point in the 1990s and may have inherited a lot of the Cicero Crew's rackets. He was a previous doorman at a strip club in Cicero called Spot Lounge in the 70s - by the 1990s working for Monteleone, he was living in a mansion in Burr Ridge, IL. My source is curious if Frank is still alive - any ideas?

Snakes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 3:30 pm Name doesn't ring a bell, but Frank Ciangi was named as one of Monteleone's collectors on the West Side. He was also Monteleone's driver for a time.

Coloboy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 7:39 am It certainly makes sense that a guy with that last name, from the neighborhood we are talking about, who is involved in video poker, was connected. It’s more plausible than him being independent. I’m just surprised this was never discussed before, because it directly backs up the idea that those two crews were going head to head on the video poker thing. If Dublino was backed by Melrose Park, it makes sense that he would feel OK telling Sarno to fuck off in 2002.

You have to wonder if a guy like this is still active today and fell in line with the Cicero/Cautadella crew that runs that part of the city now

Coloboy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 7:39 am You have to wonder if a guy like this is still active today and fell in line with the Cicero/Cautadella crew that runs that part of the city now

NorthBuffalo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 6:10 am

Coloboy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2024 11:33 am I guess I just had no idea that Dublino was in any way tied to the outfit. I thought he was some punk, independent video poker guy. The argument That I was referencing took place supposedly in 2002 outside a bar. At that time, Jimmy Marcello was running the outfit, and I have to wonder if the confidence in which Dublino basically told Sarno to go fuck himself, came from knowing that he was backed by Jimmy Marcello /melrose park

I don't think Chicago is the type of city where anyone just independently moves into video gambling machines - and being Italian from Berwyn, I think its too far-fetched to assume Dublino wasn't connected somewhere. I've got excellent Chicago sources who told me Dublino's brother (Pasquale Dublino) is a very violent individual who is well-known.

Coloboy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2024 11:33 am I guess I just had no idea that Dublino was in any way tied to the outfit. I thought he was some punk, independent video poker guy. The argument That I was referencing took place supposedly in 2002 outside a bar. At that time, Jimmy Marcello was running the outfit, and I have to wonder if the confidence in which Dublino basically told Sarno to go fuck himself, came from knowing that he was backed by Jimmy Marcello /melrose park

Coloboy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2024 10:56 am It’s interesting….. Dublino was quoted as telling Sarno…”I don’t work for you fatass.” And Sarno was paraphrased as telling Dublino to stop doing any video poker business south of 47th st (or close to that)

That certainly sounds like a conversation/argument between members of two different outfit crews, not Mike Sarno and just some random video poker guy arguing.