by newera_212 » Mon Feb 05, 2024 10:41 pm
PolackTony wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 10:20 pm
When Danny Pagano was born in ‘53, I believe they were living in East Harlem, on 123 by 2nd Ave. Joe Pagano did a bid in 1955 and I believe got out in the early 60s. Sometime after this the Paganos moved to Rockland County, as Danny was living in Spring Valley when he got pinched in 1973 on dope charges. Joe Pagano was living in neighboring Monseynwhen he died in the 80s, which happens to be the epicenter of the Hasidic colony in Rockland.
Rockland used to be cheaper than Westchester, though in recent decades the prices have gone up such that it’s just as pricey. Rockland is close to Jersey, though, which for some people matters; you also have the Tappan Zee as a quick shot over the river. Orange County remains both cheaper and more rural than much of Westchester, some people like the more spread out lifestyle. I know a bunch of people from the Bx who have moved to Orange County for these reasons, as well as up to Dutchess and Putnam.
Good stuff - thanks for the info. It's crazy that some of the LCN linked (I guess just general Italian linked, lol) places and even full blocks in East Harlem haven't just changed, but completely disappeared. If the Paganos were on 123rd near 2nd, I'd imagine wherever they lived may have been cleared to make way for Taino Towers. I think those went up in the 70s maybe? Then, the block of 107th where the "107th Street Gang" or whatever it was called originated - future Lucchese guys - pretty sure that specific block doesn't even exist with whatever NYCHA is there.
I know East Harlem pretty well, at least from 116th and up - but I can't even imagine what it must have looked like before all of the NYCHA developments went up. That must have been a crazy time to have lived there, during that transformation. IIRC either East Harlem or the LES has the highest concentration of public housing out of anywhere in the U.S. Theres some good info in books about what it was like around the turn of the century, but I'm curious what it was really like later on when it got more diverse, crowded, and public housing took over. The poster Jiggs used to have some good random anecdotes about East Harlem from kinda around that time. Without a doubt it's at the top of the list when it comes to most interesting neighborhood history for anywhere in NYC
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When Danny Pagano was born in ‘53, I believe they were living in East Harlem, on 123 by 2nd Ave. Joe Pagano did a bid in 1955 and I believe got out in the early 60s. Sometime after this the Paganos moved to Rockland County, as Danny was living in Spring Valley when he got pinched in 1973 on dope charges. Joe Pagano was living in neighboring Monseynwhen he died in the 80s, which happens to be the epicenter of the Hasidic colony in Rockland.
Rockland used to be cheaper than Westchester, though in recent decades the prices have gone up such that it’s just as pricey. Rockland is close to Jersey, though, which for some people matters; you also have the Tappan Zee as a quick shot over the river. Orange County remains both cheaper and more rural than much of Westchester, some people like the more spread out lifestyle. I know a bunch of people from the Bx who have moved to Orange County for these reasons, as well as up to Dutchess and Putnam.
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Good stuff - thanks for the info. It's crazy that some of the LCN linked (I guess just general Italian linked, lol) places and even full blocks in East Harlem haven't just changed, but completely disappeared. If the Paganos were on 123rd near 2nd, I'd imagine wherever they lived may have been cleared to make way for Taino Towers. I think those went up in the 70s maybe? Then, the block of 107th where the "107th Street Gang" or whatever it was called originated - future Lucchese guys - pretty sure that specific block doesn't even exist with whatever NYCHA is there.
I know East Harlem pretty well, at least from 116th and up - but I can't even imagine what it must have looked like before all of the NYCHA developments went up. That must have been a crazy time to have lived there, during that transformation. IIRC either East Harlem or the LES has the highest concentration of public housing out of anywhere in the U.S. Theres some good info in books about what it was like around the turn of the century, but I'm curious what it was really like later on when it got more diverse, crowded, and public housing took over. The poster Jiggs used to have some good random anecdotes about East Harlem from kinda around that time. Without a doubt it's at the top of the list when it comes to most interesting neighborhood history for anywhere in NYC