by Southshore88 » Mon Dec 18, 2023 6:31 am
Browniety86 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:59 am
SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 11:15 pm
Sol wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 6:47 pm
Arguable the worst day for the Gambino family......Sol
Disagree.
When Gotti removed plea bargaining from the table.
That was their worst day.
Imagine how many guys would've bargained, be out, not flipped.
Other than Gravano, who flipped that did actually damage to the Gambinos within their ranks? Dom Borghese? Nah...Primo Caasarino...Nope...Peter Vaccaro (associate)...I don't think so...That and you saw Joe Butch basically tell Gotti to go fuck himself and pled out on his case in the early 90s, albeit with John Sr in prison for life without already...
Dileonardo definitely got squeezed while in prison when he was looking at potential decades. If the Pete Gotti admin was not in place and he had the option to plead out, very easily could have been a whole different story.
I think it’s also disingenuous to discount Gravano flipping as he put a ton of members away too.
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Arguable the worst day for the Gambino family......Sol
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Disagree.
When Gotti removed plea bargaining from the table.
That was their worst day.
Imagine how many guys would've bargained, be out, not flipped.
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Other than Gravano, who flipped that did actually damage to the Gambinos within their ranks? Dom Borghese? Nah...Primo Caasarino...Nope...Peter Vaccaro (associate)...I don't think so...That and you saw Joe Butch basically tell Gotti to go fuck himself and pled out on his case in the early 90s, albeit with John Sr in prison for life without already...
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Dileonardo definitely got squeezed while in prison when he was looking at potential decades. If the Pete Gotti admin was not in place and he had the option to plead out, very easily could have been a whole different story.
I think it’s also disingenuous to discount Gravano flipping as he put a ton of members away too.