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by funkster » Mon Jul 01, 2024 4:53 pm
Tonyd621 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 4:37 pm funkster wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 1:14 pm I think you’re correct on the “gabeet” context tony. In random news that’s not important, the new apple show “presumed innocent” with Jake gyllenhal is set in Chicago and in one of the episode the characters are in a bar having drinks and the outside is totally Richards with the name changed on the sign using special effects lol That's a great show.
funkster wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 1:14 pm I think you’re correct on the “gabeet” context tony. In random news that’s not important, the new apple show “presumed innocent” with Jake gyllenhal is set in Chicago and in one of the episode the characters are in a bar having drinks and the outside is totally Richards with the name changed on the sign using special effects lol
by Tonyd621 » Mon Jul 01, 2024 4:37 pm
by funkster » Mon Jul 01, 2024 1:14 pm
by PolackTony » Fri Jun 28, 2024 10:52 pm
PolackTony wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2024 6:38 pm “capito” (past participle of capiscere, to understand”).
by Ivan » Fri Jun 28, 2024 7:03 pm
by PolackTony » Fri Jun 28, 2024 6:38 pm
Patrickgold wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2024 4:35 pm PolackTony wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2024 2:40 pm Patrickgold wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2024 1:31 pm Ivan wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2024 9:06 am PolackTony wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2024 8:51 am Ivan wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2024 8:50 am What the fuck is a "Gabeet"? “Ha Capito”. Awesome, thank you. Sir: I have heard that "Negall" (Joe Ferriola) is a corruption of "(Charles) De Gaulle". I have trouble believing this. Is it correct? Bellavia to my eyes and ears comes across as intelligent and articulate in that video. (Enthusiasm for Sudoku expressed at the end reinforced by "intelligent" perception -- dumb people don't do number game shit for fun.) Antiliar's source said (as of 2022ish) he was "heavy in the street" in spite of being 150 years old. Nagel is a reference to the street that he lived on in Chicago Did someone make this claim? I don't think it's correct. A. Nagle Ave (6343 West, mainly on the Far NW Side of Chicago with a small section on the Far SW Side) is pronounced like "bagel". Ferriola's nickname is usually rendered by the press and LE as "Negall" or "Nagall". Frank Cullotta pronounced it like "nuh-GALL". B. When did Joe Feriola ever live on Nagle Ave? The Ferriolas were from Taylor St. As a kid and into his youth in the 1940s Joe Ferriola lived on the 900 block of S Hoyne (between Arthington and Taylor). By the late 40s/early 50s, Joe Ferriola had an address in the Taylor St Patch on the 2300 block of W Grenshaw (btwn Claremont and Western), while his parents had moved from the city to S 61st Ave in Cicero. By the late 50s and into the 1960s, Ferriola was living in Riverside (he later moved to Westchester IL and then to Oak Brook). By the 1960s the FBI had already recorded that his nickname was "Joe Negall" as well as "Joe Nick". The Feds, as was often the case, didn't understand what they were hearing and tried to make sense of the nickname, even, humorously, rendering it as "De Gaule" in some reports. "nuh-GOAL", however, is just the Napolitan' pronunciation of "Nicola". As I've written before, Ferriola's father was Nicola "Nick" Ferraiolo. In old neighborhoods like Taylor St -- where practically every boy was a Joey, Johnny, Tony, Nicky, etc -- they used to often call kids by their dad's name to distinguish them from each other and these often stuck as personal/familial nicknames. I remember being told that. I was never around him but knew people that were. I guess the spelling is a little different. I also heard from someone that was around him that it had to do with Nagel being slang for Nicky. No idea if that’s true. Same with Bellavia. They use to call him Gaby and Gabeets was slang for that. No idea though
PolackTony wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2024 2:40 pm Patrickgold wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2024 1:31 pm Ivan wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2024 9:06 am PolackTony wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2024 8:51 am Ivan wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2024 8:50 am What the fuck is a "Gabeet"? “Ha Capito”. Awesome, thank you. Sir: I have heard that "Negall" (Joe Ferriola) is a corruption of "(Charles) De Gaulle". I have trouble believing this. Is it correct? Bellavia to my eyes and ears comes across as intelligent and articulate in that video. (Enthusiasm for Sudoku expressed at the end reinforced by "intelligent" perception -- dumb people don't do number game shit for fun.) Antiliar's source said (as of 2022ish) he was "heavy in the street" in spite of being 150 years old. Nagel is a reference to the street that he lived on in Chicago Did someone make this claim? I don't think it's correct. A. Nagle Ave (6343 West, mainly on the Far NW Side of Chicago with a small section on the Far SW Side) is pronounced like "bagel". Ferriola's nickname is usually rendered by the press and LE as "Negall" or "Nagall". Frank Cullotta pronounced it like "nuh-GALL". B. When did Joe Feriola ever live on Nagle Ave? The Ferriolas were from Taylor St. As a kid and into his youth in the 1940s Joe Ferriola lived on the 900 block of S Hoyne (between Arthington and Taylor). By the late 40s/early 50s, Joe Ferriola had an address in the Taylor St Patch on the 2300 block of W Grenshaw (btwn Claremont and Western), while his parents had moved from the city to S 61st Ave in Cicero. By the late 50s and into the 1960s, Ferriola was living in Riverside (he later moved to Westchester IL and then to Oak Brook). By the 1960s the FBI had already recorded that his nickname was "Joe Negall" as well as "Joe Nick". The Feds, as was often the case, didn't understand what they were hearing and tried to make sense of the nickname, even, humorously, rendering it as "De Gaule" in some reports. "nuh-GOAL", however, is just the Napolitan' pronunciation of "Nicola". As I've written before, Ferriola's father was Nicola "Nick" Ferraiolo. In old neighborhoods like Taylor St -- where practically every boy was a Joey, Johnny, Tony, Nicky, etc -- they used to often call kids by their dad's name to distinguish them from each other and these often stuck as personal/familial nicknames.
Patrickgold wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2024 1:31 pm Ivan wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2024 9:06 am PolackTony wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2024 8:51 am Ivan wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2024 8:50 am What the fuck is a "Gabeet"? “Ha Capito”. Awesome, thank you. Sir: I have heard that "Negall" (Joe Ferriola) is a corruption of "(Charles) De Gaulle". I have trouble believing this. Is it correct? Bellavia to my eyes and ears comes across as intelligent and articulate in that video. (Enthusiasm for Sudoku expressed at the end reinforced by "intelligent" perception -- dumb people don't do number game shit for fun.) Antiliar's source said (as of 2022ish) he was "heavy in the street" in spite of being 150 years old. Nagel is a reference to the street that he lived on in Chicago
Ivan wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2024 9:06 am PolackTony wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2024 8:51 am Ivan wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2024 8:50 am What the fuck is a "Gabeet"? “Ha Capito”. Awesome, thank you. Sir: I have heard that "Negall" (Joe Ferriola) is a corruption of "(Charles) De Gaulle". I have trouble believing this. Is it correct? Bellavia to my eyes and ears comes across as intelligent and articulate in that video. (Enthusiasm for Sudoku expressed at the end reinforced by "intelligent" perception -- dumb people don't do number game shit for fun.) Antiliar's source said (as of 2022ish) he was "heavy in the street" in spite of being 150 years old.
PolackTony wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2024 8:51 am Ivan wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2024 8:50 am What the fuck is a "Gabeet"? “Ha Capito”.
Ivan wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2024 8:50 am What the fuck is a "Gabeet"?
by Patrickgold » Fri Jun 28, 2024 4:35 pm
by PolackTony » Fri Jun 28, 2024 2:57 pm
NorthBuffalo wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2024 10:56 am Polack one of the guys who I talk to about Chicago thinks Handhardt's mother's uncle was Tony Capezio, the boss of John De Biase and the original grand avenue crew. Any connections there? Also is this the first made Chicago member on YouTube beyond this guy Rovito ? Its interesting Bellavia began as a thief with Scalise but seems to have taken a much different path. DeLaurentis it always sounds like ran clubs and gambling operations as he was coming up. Interesting how all of the guys in that crew had different backgrounds (I know Infelise was a thief as well).
by PolackTony » Fri Jun 28, 2024 2:40 pm
by Patrickgold » Fri Jun 28, 2024 1:31 pm
by NorthBuffalo » Fri Jun 28, 2024 10:56 am
by Snakes » Fri Jun 28, 2024 10:41 am
by PolackTony » Fri Jun 28, 2024 10:31 am
by PolackTony » Fri Jun 28, 2024 9:49 am
NorthBuffalo wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2024 8:23 am Two things I thought were interesting from that interiew: Bellavia grew up in what I believe is Lincoln Park (Arlington near Halstead) and he mentions doing scores with Jerry 'Witherhand' Scalise, who I believe is still alive. Also interesting stories about Bill Handhardt - anyone know who his 'uncle on Grand Avenue' was? Was that Jonny DeBiase?
by Ivan » Fri Jun 28, 2024 9:39 am
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