THE BLACK HAND FORUM

NJShore4Life wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 8:25 am Scarfo Jr’s crew was his cousin JP, Pellulo , Sammy Piccolo, Anthony Persiano, and Todd Stark. They were very active in the AC Area in the 2000s.

Stark has posted a fair amount to the Philly mob facebook page.

Joey Electric was always in Scoop’s Crew….

-Dante

Scarfo Jr’s crew was his cousin JP, Pellulo , Sammy Piccolo, Anthony Persiano, and Todd Stark. They were very active in the AC Area in the 2000s.

-Dante

johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 7:22 pm Scarfo Jr was 100% a member of the Lucchese family. I remember Pennisi telling a story about John Perna gleefully volunteering to go tell him he had been knocked down from Captain to Soldier because he hated him so much.

Ya its in the Operation Heat bust. Its in the fbi section. Fantastic read. Scarfo jr was the captain for sure. He got knocked down for ralph perna sr.

Scarfo Jr was 100% a member of the Lucchese family. I remember Pennisi telling a story about John Perna gleefully volunteering to go tell him he had been knocked down from Captain to Soldier because he hated him so much.

Scarfo was the luchese capo in charge of the new jersey crew. All the guys who went back to the 60tys. I think I read he was inducted at the same ceremony as Matty Madonna around 99. I seen vic amuso was sending messages in the late 90tys to induct scarfo Jr to crea who kept putting it off but eventually did. All that stuff scarfo did inducing guys and trying to take back Philly must have came from his father. I guess technically scarfo Sr could have asked amuso to transfer him to scarfos Philly family but this hasn't been ever brought up I think by turncoats

Cheech wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 6:11 pm Joey electric was not with scarfo jr. I believe he is a scoops guy

Who was in the crew that was brought over?

Joey electric was not with scarfo jr. I believe he is a scoops guy

So from the indictments and the tapped making ceremony, this much is apparent:

- scarfo Jr was not made into the luchesse family as much as he was the "boss" of the luchesse recognized philadelphia mafia.

- because the only family recognizing scarfo faction was the Luke's, regular ligambi- merlino philly mob continues biz as usual being the "philly mob"

- scarfos indictment and imprisonment in the first plus scandal led to there being roughly 5 made guys out there with no family to be in, and with no representation


Questions are these:

- how much were post- stanfa/Natale indictment murders having more to do with scarfos second family than the merlino faction? (Johnny gongs being a possibility, and maybe long john)

- who asked who to do what after Nicky Jr's indictment? Did Persians and Joey electric and Co ask to be brought into the fold, or did the merlino guys demand they come in the fold? Why not just let them join the Luke's?

- what else in our currently understood history of the philly mob can be re examined knowing Nicky Jr was running a competing family, vs just being a luchesse