by NorthBuffalo » Tue Apr 15, 2025 6:36 am
Coloboy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 14, 2025 9:08 pm
Then boss Monteleone died in January 2001. Chiaramonte was killed in November of that year later on. I think it’s likely that it was decided sometime in that period that when Marcello got out, it was his spot. He certainly spoke as if he was the boss on the prison tapes with his brother around this time.
Tornabene is often thought to have kept things running for Marcello in this period. I would not be surprised based on that timeline if Marcello approved the hit on Chiaramonti from prison. He was seemingly well informed of goings on based on his prison tapes.
I agree - I think you also look at the timeline. Chiarmonte, Tournabene, Marcello and Zizzo are all Carlisi guys. Sarno and the Cicero guys were Infelise crew. There is always this idea of a power struggle because of Dublino and Sarno later beefing - but I do think that could have been one off.
Chiaramonte gets hit in 2001 and Marcello comes home 2003. Marcello goes back to prison in April 2005 and Zizzo is hit a few months later in August. It always looks, reads and sounds as if Zizzo was killed in a power struggle between Marcello and Sarno - however, one wonders if this was Marcello perhaps tying up loose ends. Perhaps the feds were pressuring Zizzo on Family Secrets or there was more going on there. I think a lot of people too often look at Sarno for the hit on Zizzo, while perhaps forgetting he may have still been working for Marcello at the time and following orders.
I also think you need to look at 2005 for the Outfit - they have the first made guy in history flipping and giving information. Indictments are coming for all of the top brass at that time. I just wonder if Zizzo was hit out of fear things could get worse - I'm not sure Sarno would simply 'usurp' the boss position from Marcello after he goes to prison and then hit Marcello's main guy (Zizzo) within a few months and not wonder if this would cause Marcello to flip himself and put Sarno behind bars.
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Then boss Monteleone died in January 2001. Chiaramonte was killed in November of that year later on. I think it’s likely that it was decided sometime in that period that when Marcello got out, it was his spot. He certainly spoke as if he was the boss on the prison tapes with his brother around this time.
Tornabene is often thought to have kept things running for Marcello in this period. I would not be surprised based on that timeline if Marcello approved the hit on Chiaramonti from prison. He was seemingly well informed of goings on based on his prison tapes.
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I agree - I think you also look at the timeline. Chiarmonte, Tournabene, Marcello and Zizzo are all Carlisi guys. Sarno and the Cicero guys were Infelise crew. There is always this idea of a power struggle because of Dublino and Sarno later beefing - but I do think that could have been one off.
Chiaramonte gets hit in 2001 and Marcello comes home 2003. Marcello goes back to prison in April 2005 and Zizzo is hit a few months later in August. It always looks, reads and sounds as if Zizzo was killed in a power struggle between Marcello and Sarno - however, one wonders if this was Marcello perhaps tying up loose ends. Perhaps the feds were pressuring Zizzo on Family Secrets or there was more going on there. I think a lot of people too often look at Sarno for the hit on Zizzo, while perhaps forgetting he may have still been working for Marcello at the time and following orders.
I also think you need to look at 2005 for the Outfit - they have the first made guy in history flipping and giving information. Indictments are coming for all of the top brass at that time. I just wonder if Zizzo was hit out of fear things could get worse - I'm not sure Sarno would simply 'usurp' the boss position from Marcello after he goes to prison and then hit Marcello's main guy (Zizzo) within a few months and not wonder if this would cause Marcello to flip himself and put Sarno behind bars.