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Re: Ciro Terranova questions

by Brovelli » Mon Jul 29, 2024 6:52 am

PCMarino wrote: Mon Sep 28, 2015 3:40 pm The Artichoke King's residence in 1930 as it appears today
Looks like this house is about to go up for sale. 989 peace street, Pelham. Looks a bit beaten up

Re: Ciro Terranova questions

by B. » Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:37 pm

Would be great to have more concrete info on "Frankie Marlow" Curto. He was from Palermo province and lived on the Lower East Side, citing employment from a Joseph Badalamenti (a common enough name, but I wondered if it connected to the Profaci figure Joseph Badalementi -- there's a Profaci connection to the "Yale crowd", particularly through Giuseppe Peraino, who was connected to the Carini element that would come to include the Profaci Badalamentis).

Investigators believed that Girolamo "Bobby Doyle" Santuccio was associated with Curto prior to Curto's death in 1929. Though he would end up in the Bronx and Connecticut, Santuccio started out on the Lower East side. If he was involved with Curto, this stands out because Santuccio would not become affiliated with the Genovese family until 1931. Another potential angle I haven't been able to confirm is that Curto may have had maternal relatives in Connecticut.

Curto doesn't get mentioned much if at all by reliable mafia sources (that I know of) and we have to rely on LE and media reports of the era, which focus more on the "gang leader", "Yale lieutenant", and his public persona, all of which are hard to trust. He does appear to have been neck deep with Masseria figures.

Re: Ciro Terranova questions

by Antiliar » Sat Jan 18, 2020 3:10 pm

Dwalin2014 wrote: Wed Apr 13, 2016 2:14 pm But Ciro Terranova was always a capo under somebody, he never went beyong the limits of being in charge of one crew? I mean, he wasn't boss not even during the mafia-camorra war in 1916?
Totally forgot about this thread. No, Ciro Terranova never rose about a captain.

Re: Ciro Terranova questions

by antimafia » Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:10 am

Antiliar wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2016 1:10 am
DPG wrote:Can anyone explain his artichoke racket to me? I've read First Family but I can't say I understand this part. Any idea how long it went on? From what I remember from the book it seemed once he got the racket going he was pushed out.
https://books.google.com/books?id=OSqBs ... et&f=false
‪”In 1930s New York, the Mayor Took on the Mafia by Banning Artichokes”

https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/s ... histories‬

Re: Ciro Terranova questions

by Dwalin2014 » Wed Apr 13, 2016 2:14 pm

But Ciro Terranova was always a capo under somebody, he never went beyong the limits of being in charge of one crew? I mean, he wasn't boss not even during the mafia-camorra war in 1916?

Re: Ciro Terranova questions

by Antiliar » Wed Apr 13, 2016 2:08 pm

I think it's likely that Masseria ordered Marlow's death for reasons unknown to us. Masseria could have used someone from Marlow's own crew, Terranova's crew, a combination of the two, or neither. We just don't know.

Re: Ciro Terranova questions

by Dwalin2014 » Wed Apr 13, 2016 2:01 pm

By the way, another question about Ciro: he was alleged to have whacked Frankie Yale and Frankie Marlow (Gandolfo Curto). For Yale, it was a false lead, he was whacked by Capone. But Marlow, was he whacked by Terranova or somebody else? I read a robber named Daniel Grosso, executed for a robbery murder in 1931 and somebody named Nicholas McDermott, were alleged to be the triggermen on the Marlow hit, but were carrying out the contract for Masseria, not Terranova. Who was responsible after all in your opinion?

Re: Ciro Terranova questions

by cammy_sanzone1 » Tue Mar 29, 2016 2:06 pm

Great read that First Family.check it out if you haven't read it yet.great early info.

Re: Ciro Terranova questions

by Antiliar » Sun Feb 21, 2016 1:10 am

DPG wrote:Can anyone explain his artichoke racket to me? I've read First Family but I can't say I understand this part. Any idea how long it went on? From what I remember from the book it seemed once he got the racket going he was pushed out.
https://books.google.com/books?id=OSqBs ... et&f=false

Re: Ciro Terranova questions

by DPG » Sat Feb 20, 2016 11:17 pm

Can anyone explain his artichoke racket to me? I've read First Family but I can't say I understand this part. Any idea how long it went on? From what I remember from the book it seemed once he got the racket going he was pushed out.

Re: Ciro Terranova questions

by HairyKnuckles » Sun Feb 14, 2016 3:07 am

You´ll have to use a photo hosting site. For example Photobucket.com which is the one I use. Once the photo is uploaded there, copy its URL address and put it in a post here between the "Img" brackets. You can attach multiple URL addresses in one and same post, by putting the URL addresses beneath eachother.

Re: Ciro Terranova questions

by PCMarino » Sun Feb 14, 2016 2:33 am

I apologize for my lapse in participation,but thanks to Solilai's going the extra mile and reaching out to me, I now have a better understanding of how the forum works. One source of frustration though that someone may be able to help me with is the ability, or lack of the same, to attach more than one image to a post/reply/comment. Is there a way to do this? I have more on Ciro that I posted in another page here. Thanks

Re: Ciro Terranova questions

by B. » Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:46 pm

Chris Christie wrote:
PCMarino wrote:A face only his mother could love. Source Brooklyn Daily Eagle, Photo circa 1930.
Westchester County? Salut! I've been doing alot of early research (pre-1920's) and alot of stuff has lead me to Westchester (which in turn lead me to OH, MN and several other areas. White Plains, Mineola, Port Chester, Newburgh were all connected, OC speaking.

Welcome to the board. I think you could stand to become one of the best posters here.
Yeah, welcome Marino. You seem like a solid guy who can add a lot to the discussion.

Re: Ciro Terranova questions

by Angelo Santino » Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:35 pm

PCMarino wrote:A face only his mother could love. Source Brooklyn Daily Eagle, Photo circa 1930.
Westchester County? Salut! I've been doing alot of early research (pre-1920's) and alot of stuff has lead me to Westchester (which in turn lead me to OH, MN and several other areas. White Plains, Mineola, Port Chester, Newburgh were all connected, OC speaking.

Welcome to the board. I think you could stand to become one of the best posters here.

Re: Ciro Terranova questions

by Dwalin2014 » Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:10 pm

Thanks for the information and the photos! Even being rather interested in the character, I didn't have much information about Terranova apart from the usual wikipedia stuff and several articles.

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