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Massino didn't let his capos choose a consig. I don't think so. He choose spero

Gotti was on tape talking about how he couldn't break joe gallo but he could break all the capos at that time 1986 and have his chosen capos pick the new consig

I wonder if the Gens still voted for the Consiglieri position

In his book, D'Arco says Ida was the one "really running things for the crew (Family)." He says Ida was the one who handled most of the issues between different Families.

It is pretty standard for the consigliere (acting or otherwise) to be a power in his own right next to the boss himself.

Technically whoever chins official underboss was next in line then Jimmy's Ida. I think he would have wanted to be official boss one day but him getting arrested fucked up his plan. Barney was street boss he wasn't higher up than Ida. This is all explained from a wire tap of gerry catena chewing out tommy eboli who was acting boss at 1 time as catena was official underboss while Vito genovese was in prison probably late 60tys

Thanks for sharing. Many great details.

What people often overlook about the Genovese Family is how much internal factionalism existed. Because they run such a tight ship it's easy to assume everyone is on the same page but there was a great deal of factionalism between the 1950s and 70s and it's no surprise that looks to have continued into the Gigante era.

I dont believe Ida was going to try and take over the Gens.

SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 8:52 pm Furio did you open a second account?

Lol

Furio did you open a second account?

But my point was that Bellomo was the Chins man and it didnt matter about seniority. Chin must have really been impressed with Bellomo.

They both had to be made after the NY no new members years

SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 4:23 pm

Frank wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 12:27 pm And hundreds of guys had more seniority to Barney in that time period

Name 150.

Or 70.

Annnnnnd go...

Before I go and attempt that are you starting seniority time at date of being made? I you sure Ida was made before Barney?

johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 5:36 pm We just see it differently so we will have to agree to disagree.


https://lcnbios.blogspot.com/2022/04/ph ... ovese.html

Cheers ears.
Good discussion JS. It's all spec.

As an aside, never heard if Westside Capo Dominick Cappolla (article). Died 2020. Is there bio on him?

We just see it differently so we will have to agree to disagree.


https://lcnbios.blogspot.com/2022/04/ph ... ovese.html

newera_212 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 2:14 pm I think Frustaci (or Alex Moretti?) was the guy that D'Arco lived under at the LIRA building on Spring Street. Place was stocked full of wiseguys.

Do we have any Bio on Frustaci?