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Re: Long, excellent series on Wheeling mob

by Ivan » Thu Apr 06, 2023 4:21 pm

FriendofHenry wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 3:15 pm Maybe I'm wrong but no one made that much of a big deal over Paul's bust. Lenny, ratting out his friend, Bernie the Jew, was a Big Deal :x
Yeah the Hankish bust just kind of quietly happened. The Youngstown meltdown, on the other hand, was national news.

Re: Long, excellent series on Wheeling mob

by FriendofHenry » Thu Apr 06, 2023 3:15 pm

Ivan wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 2:46 pm
FriendofHenry wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 2:14 pm Close enough to call him "Uncle" Joe :) He invited to his hunting camp, Charlie's Roost for Deer season. That also where I met Michael.
I met Charlie from Dad taking me for lunch at The Sunrise Inn and I then met Tony Desanter through Charlie who became Uncle Charlie.
According to Paul1921, your friend Henry was the guy over Hankish at one point. I bet that was toward the end for a couple years after Pecora died but before Hankish went down in 1990.

People make such a big deal about the Strollo takedown and the final destruction of the Youngstown mob that everyone seems to overlook the Hankish bust, but Wheeling was also a big tentacle of Pittsburgh that got cut off by the feds.
I actually met Paul through Henry. Occasionally we would meet Paul at Ernie's Esquire in Wheeling where Henry brought a "paper bag" for Paul and Paul bought dinner and ladies for later ;) I also got invited to Paul's house. Henry told me not even look at his wife. She was a dynamite looker ;)
Maybe I'm wrong but no one made that much of a big deal over Paul's bust. Lenny, ratting out his friend, Bernie the Jew, was a Big Deal :x

Re: Long, excellent series on Wheeling mob

by Ivan » Thu Apr 06, 2023 2:46 pm

FriendofHenry wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 2:14 pm Close enough to call him "Uncle" Joe :) He invited to his hunting camp, Charlie's Roost for Deer season. That also where I met Michael.
I met Charlie from Dad taking me for lunch at The Sunrise Inn and I then met Tony Desanter through Charlie who became Uncle Charlie.
According to Paul1921, your friend Henry was the guy over Hankish at one point. I bet that was toward the end for a couple years after Pecora died but before Hankish went down in 1990.

People make such a big deal about the Strollo takedown and the final destruction of the Youngstown mob that everyone seems to overlook the Hankish bust, but Wheeling was also a big tentacle of Pittsburgh that got cut off by the feds.

Re: Long, excellent series on Wheeling mob

by FriendofHenry » Thu Apr 06, 2023 2:14 pm

Ivan wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 12:09 pm
FriendofHenry wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 11:26 am
Ivan wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 9:02 am
Paul1921 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 7:36 am This was a great series. Read it and enjoyed it thoroughly. According to Eggy Prosdocimo and a former law enforcement officer who worked the PG mob, Hankish paid up a portion of his profits to Pecora, Porter and Zottola based on whoever his contact was at the time.
Glad you like it!

Figured that Pecora would be involved. The Mafia Don of West Virginia! :D
Just a rather humorist piece - Jo Jo had West Virginia licence with only the number 2.
Joe bitched that he should have the Governors plate number 1.
After all, Jo Jo paid the Governor more than the state did :)
You were friendly with him in real life, right?
Close enough to call him "Uncle" Joe :) He invited to his hunting camp, Charlie's Roost for Deer season. That also where I met Michael.
I met Charlie from Dad taking me for lunch at The Sunrise Inn and I then met Tony Desanter through Charlie who became Uncle Charlie.

Re: Long, excellent series on Wheeling mob

by PolackTony » Thu Apr 06, 2023 1:53 pm

FriendofHenry wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 11:26 am
Ivan wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 9:02 am
Paul1921 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 7:36 am This was a great series. Read it and enjoyed it thoroughly. According to Eggy Prosdocimo and a former law enforcement officer who worked the PG mob, Hankish paid up a portion of his profits to Pecora, Porter and Zottola based on whoever his contact was at the time.
Glad you like it!

Figured that Pecora would be involved. The Mafia Don of West Virginia! :D
Just a rather humorist piece - Jo Jo had West Virginia licence with only the number 2.
Joe bitched that he should have the Governors plate number 1.
After all, Jo Jo paid the Governor more than the state did :)
LOL

Re: Long, excellent series on Wheeling mob

by Ivan » Thu Apr 06, 2023 12:09 pm

FriendofHenry wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 11:26 am
Ivan wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 9:02 am
Paul1921 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 7:36 am This was a great series. Read it and enjoyed it thoroughly. According to Eggy Prosdocimo and a former law enforcement officer who worked the PG mob, Hankish paid up a portion of his profits to Pecora, Porter and Zottola based on whoever his contact was at the time.
Glad you like it!

Figured that Pecora would be involved. The Mafia Don of West Virginia! :D
Just a rather humorist piece - Jo Jo had West Virginia licence with only the number 2.
Joe bitched that he should have the Governors plate number 1.
After all, Jo Jo paid the Governor more than the state did :)
You were friendly with him in real life, right?

Re: Long, excellent series on Wheeling mob

by FriendofHenry » Thu Apr 06, 2023 11:26 am

Ivan wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 9:02 am
Paul1921 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 7:36 am This was a great series. Read it and enjoyed it thoroughly. According to Eggy Prosdocimo and a former law enforcement officer who worked the PG mob, Hankish paid up a portion of his profits to Pecora, Porter and Zottola based on whoever his contact was at the time.
Glad you like it!

Figured that Pecora would be involved. The Mafia Don of West Virginia! :D
Just a rather humorist piece - Jo Jo had West Virginia licence with only the number 2.
Joe bitched that he should have the Governors plate number 1.
After all, Jo Jo paid the Governor more than the state did :)

Re: Long, excellent series on Wheeling mob

by Ivan » Thu Apr 06, 2023 9:02 am

Paul1921 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 7:36 am This was a great series. Read it and enjoyed it thoroughly. According to Eggy Prosdocimo and a former law enforcement officer who worked the PG mob, Hankish paid up a portion of his profits to Pecora, Porter and Zottola based on whoever his contact was at the time.
Glad you like it!

Figured that Pecora would be involved. The Mafia Don of West Virginia! :D

Re: Long, excellent series on Wheeling mob

by Paul1921 » Thu Apr 06, 2023 7:36 am

This was a great series. Read it and enjoyed it thoroughly. According to Eggy Prosdocimo and a former law enforcement officer who worked the PG mob, Hankish paid up a portion of his profits to Pecora, Porter and Zottola based on whoever his contact was at the time.

Re: Long, excellent series on Wheeling mob

by PolackTony » Wed Apr 05, 2023 4:23 pm

trafficante wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 6:24 pm
JoelTurner wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 6:01 pm I wonder if the connection between Hankish and Covello came from David Iacovetti .

He was a Gambino member who was all over the place. He had ties to Pittsburgh and was close to Joe Covello, even being arrested with his brother.

He seems like he could have been the bridge between the two.
Hankish had a lieutenant named Charles "Buddy" Jacovetty--similar surname to Iacovetti. Possibly a connection there, but I'm just speculating.
Good catch on this, there could be something there.

"Jacovetty" is just a spelling variation of Iacovetti; the ones in Wheeling changed the spelling from the original Iacovetti after settling in the US. The surname has a strong concentration in the area of what is today Isernia province, Molise, around towns like Forli del Sannio, Castel San Vincenzo, and Pizzone (Pizzone being a major town in Chicago with multiple ties to the mafia there, so it's an area that I'm familiar with). From the info that I have, Buddy Jacovetty's father (Buddy was half Italian; his mother was named Radulovich) Charles Anthony Jacovetty was born in Wheeling to parents from the Forli del Sannio area. David Iacovetti was born in Brooklyn -- as his father Fred was born in the US in 1892 it's hard to trace his ancestry, but there were a number of other Iacovettis in Brooklyn from Forli del Sannio, so I think it's a good bet that Fred Iacovetti's family was from that area as well.

Re: Long, excellent series on Wheeling mob

by trafficante » Mon Apr 03, 2023 6:24 pm

JoelTurner wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 6:01 pm I wonder if the connection between Hankish and Covello came from David Iacovetti .

He was a Gambino member who was all over the place. He had ties to Pittsburgh and was close to Joe Covello, even being arrested with his brother.

He seems like he could have been the bridge between the two.
Hankish had a lieutenant named Charles "Buddy" Jacovetty--similar surname to Iacovetti. Possibly a connection there, but I'm just speculating.

Re: Long, excellent series on Wheeling mob

by JoelTurner » Mon Apr 03, 2023 6:01 pm

I wonder if the connection between Hankish and Covello came from David Iacovetti .

He was a Gambino member who was all over the place. He had ties to Pittsburgh and was close to Joe Covello, even being arrested with his brother.

He seems like he could have been the bridge between the two.

Re: Long, excellent series on Wheeling mob

by PolackTony » Sun Apr 02, 2023 12:40 pm

FriendofHenry wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 11:27 am
Adam wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 11:21 am One thing I've always been unclear on when it comes to Wheeling, is that in 1957 Wheeling gambler Nick Miller was strangled and and got dumped. And the FBI reports are that the Mannarinos did it at the request of the Detroit family. But I've never been able to get additional information as to why.
I can't help you with this, but maybe JCB can? Reach out for him and see what he might know.
In 1957 Big Bill Lias was the "boss" of Wheeling and from what little I know, Big Bill also had a home in Detroit. I've wondered if Lias had been officially affiliated with the Detriot outfit as an associate. If so, then Detroit may have reached out to Pitt on his behalf to have a guy killed.

Re: Long, excellent series on Wheeling mob

by FriendofHenry » Sun Apr 02, 2023 11:27 am

Adam wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 11:21 am One thing I've always been unclear on when it comes to Wheeling, is that in 1957 Wheeling gambler Nick Miller was strangled and and got dumped. And the FBI reports are that the Mannarinos did it at the request of the Detroit family. But I've never been able to get additional information as to why.
I can't help you with this, but maybe JCB can? Reach out for him and see what he might know.

Re: Long, excellent series on Wheeling mob

by Adam » Sun Apr 02, 2023 11:21 am

One thing I've always been unclear on when it comes to Wheeling, is that in 1957 Wheeling gambler Nick Miller was strangled and and got dumped. And the FBI reports are that the Mannarinos did it at the request of the Detroit family. But I've never been able to get additional information as to why.

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