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Re: Charles Carneglia Arrest Notes + BEARD DRAMA

by SonnyBlackstein » Sat Mar 18, 2023 3:23 pm

What is this, a rodeo?

Re: Charles Carneglia Arrest Notes + BEARD DRAMA

by johnny_scootch » Fri Mar 17, 2023 6:45 pm

Cheech wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 1:24 pm
johnny_scootch wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 11:50 am
Cheech wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:37 am
johnny_scootch wrote: Sun Dec 13, 2020 6:27 am There is that guy Crazy Augie Cataldo that Capeci recently confirmed as a made member to a poster whom I am currently forgetting (sorry) but this guy Augie has a mustache in every single picture I've ever seen of him.
Capeci retracted that after a poster tipped him off he was wrong. He researched then deleted Cataldo from the column. I believe if you go back and search Cataldo its gone.
Yeah I made that post over 2 years ago before Capeci went back on what he said about Cataldo.
Oh wow. Im real fucked up :lol:
Happens to the best of us.

Re: Charles Carneglia Arrest Notes + BEARD DRAMA

by cobra » Fri Mar 17, 2023 4:28 pm

Antiliar wrote: Sun Dec 13, 2020 6:42 pm I think as a general rule beards are grown when someone is on the lam from law enforcement, retired, shelved, or wants to disassociate from the Cosa Nostra. Looking at Chicago, Frank Nitto grew a Hitler mustache (not a beard, but it was the only time when he wasn't clean shaven) when he was hiding from LE. Giancana distanced himself from the Outfit, and Joe Lombardo was on the lam.
- also sign of mourning
- vincenzo buccafusca was highly close to pino greco
- after pino greco was murdered vincenzo growed his beard

Re: Charles Carneglia Arrest Notes + BEARD DRAMA

by Cheech » Fri Mar 17, 2023 1:24 pm

johnny_scootch wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 11:50 am
Cheech wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:37 am
johnny_scootch wrote: Sun Dec 13, 2020 6:27 am There is that guy Crazy Augie Cataldo that Capeci recently confirmed as a made member to a poster whom I am currently forgetting (sorry) but this guy Augie has a mustache in every single picture I've ever seen of him.
Capeci retracted that after a poster tipped him off he was wrong. He researched then deleted Cataldo from the column. I believe if you go back and search Cataldo its gone.
Yeah I made that post over 2 years ago before Capeci went back on what he said about Cataldo.
Oh wow. Im real fucked up :lol:

Re: Charles Carneglia Arrest Notes + BEARD DRAMA

by johnny_scootch » Fri Mar 17, 2023 11:50 am

Cheech wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:37 am
johnny_scootch wrote: Sun Dec 13, 2020 6:27 am There is that guy Crazy Augie Cataldo that Capeci recently confirmed as a made member to a poster whom I am currently forgetting (sorry) but this guy Augie has a mustache in every single picture I've ever seen of him.
Capeci retracted that after a poster tipped him off he was wrong. He researched then deleted Cataldo from the column. I believe if you go back and search Cataldo its gone.
Yeah I made that post over 2 years ago before Capeci went back on what he said about Cataldo.

Re: Charles Carneglia Arrest Notes + BEARD DRAMA

by Cheech » Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:37 am

johnny_scootch wrote: Sun Dec 13, 2020 6:27 am There is that guy Crazy Augie Cataldo that Capeci recently confirmed as a made member to a poster whom I am currently forgetting (sorry) but this guy Augie has a mustache in every single picture I've ever seen of him.
Capeci retracted that after a poster tipped him off he was wrong. He researched then deleted Cataldo from the column. I believe if you go back and search Cataldo its gone.

Re: Charles Carneglia Arrest Notes + BEARD DRAMA

by gohnjotti » Fri Mar 17, 2023 12:09 am

B. wrote: Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:41 pm Not counting the guys like Persico, Langella, Agro, and Ruggiano who grew facial hair to hide their faces on the lam, here is a list of guys who had mustaches while they were active made members:

Biagio Passanante (1930s-40s)
Angelo Bruno (1950s/60s)
Sam DeCavalcante (1950s/60s)
Joe Ciancaglini (1970s)
Greg Scarpa (1970s)
Phil Testa (1950s-1980s)
Joe Ida (Genovese family) (1980s)

No doubt more.

Many members pre-1920s had mustaches, hence "Mustache Pete". Seems the 1920s are when the mafia moved away from mustaches as you rarely see photos of members with mustaches by then.

We can tell from the pejorative "Mustache Pete" and the general rule against facial hair that it was Americanized members who pushed for the facial hair rule, but at the same time it looks like the Sicilian mafia stopped growing facial hair (with some exceptions) so it may not be as simple as the US mafia wanting to of appear like "Americanized businessmen" or whatever lore has told us.
Surprised Tom Farese for the Colombos hasn't been mentioned. We also have Dennis "the Beard" DeLucia (haven't seen any photos of him with facial hair so who knows) and also Joe Competiello just prior to his arrest. Funnily enough Dino Calabro tried to grow a beard but apparently couldn't.

Re: Charles Carneglia Arrest Notes + BEARD DRAMA

by B. » Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:38 pm

Wish we knew who the six guys were at the sit down where he was told to shave his beard. People probably thought he was a homeless guy when he was outside the restaurant screaming.

Re: Charles Carneglia Arrest Notes + BEARD DRAMA

by queensnyer » Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:33 pm

he had that beard a long time. in howard beach a lot of us called him manson. not to his face though. he was a tough fuck.

Re: Charles Carneglia Arrest Notes + BEARD DRAMA

by axx » Thu Mar 16, 2023 7:50 am

The Greek wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:06 pm Fat Andy Ruggiano had facial hair while riding w a biker gang.

Tommy Agro had a mustache
True, but both were hiding at the time, just like Gaspipe.

Re: Charles Carneglia Arrest Notes + BEARD DRAMA

by sdeitche » Thu Mar 16, 2023 4:52 am

John DeGiglio had a full beard for a time. I have a bearded surveillance photo of him in my Garden State Ganhmand book, from the SCI.

Re: Charles Carneglia Arrest Notes + BEARD DRAMA

by trafficante » Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:48 pm

B. wrote: Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:41 pm Not counting the guys like Persico, Langella, Agro, and Ruggiano who grew facial hair to hide their faces on the lam, here is a list of guys who had mustaches while they were active made members:

Biagio Passanante (1930s-40s)
Angelo Bruno (1950s/60s)
Sam DeCavalcante (1950s/60s)
Joe Ciancaglini (1970s)
Greg Scarpa (1970s)
Phil Testa (1950s-1980s)
Joe Ida (Genovese family) (1980s)

No doubt more.

Many members pre-1920s had mustaches, hence "Mustache Pete". Seems the 1920s are when the mafia moved away from mustaches as you rarely see photos of members with mustaches by then.

We can tell from the pejorative "Mustache Pete" and the general rule against facial hair that it was Americanized members who pushed for the facial hair rule, but at the same time it looks like the Sicilian mafia stopped growing facial hair (with some exceptions) so it may not be as simple as the US mafia wanting to of appear like "Americanized businessmen" or whatever lore has told us.
Tony Ripepi of Pittsburgh had a mustache for pretty much his entire LCN career from what I've seen.

Re: Charles Carneglia Arrest Notes + BEARD DRAMA

by The Greek » Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:06 pm

Fat Andy Ruggiano had facial hair while riding w a biker gang.

Tommy Agro had a mustache

Re: Charles Carneglia Arrest Notes + BEARD DRAMA

by B. » Wed Mar 15, 2023 3:31 pm

Bump for Sopranos-style comedy.

Re: Charles Carneglia Arrest Notes + BEARD DRAMA

by Rocco » Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:15 pm

cavita wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:01 pm I mean, Sam Giancana grew a beard in his exile in Mexico and kept it after he came back up until he was killed. Was he out of LCN at that point or didn't the facial hair rules apply for Chicago?
Giancana was killed because he refused to shave the beard...

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