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Re: Rizzuto-Bonanno Membership

by motorfab » Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:35 am

B. wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:05 am Was the Maria Cuffaro who married Giovanni Caruana a relative of the Montreal-connected mafioso Giuseppe Cuffaro from Montallegro?
I think it's his brother born in 1932, all the Cuffaros connected to the Caruanas/Cuntreras are relatives like the Vellas

From the book Bloodlines by Nicaso & Lamothe:
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Re: Rizzuto-Bonanno Membership

by B. » Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:05 am

Was the Maria Cuffaro who married Giovanni Caruana a relative of the Montreal-connected mafioso Giuseppe Cuffaro from Montallegro?

Re: Rizzuto-Bonanno Membership

by kyrieleis » Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:31 am

johnny_scootch wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 6:33 pm
kyrieleis wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 4:13 pm
I would love to hear what you have regarding Venezuela.. I know Nick Rizzuto Sr made connections there and talked with some Calabrians/Sicilians while in Venezuela but havent come across any specific names.

On the other topic, I believe many of the Sicilians were more temporary in montreal. They most likely came and went depending on business from what I've read. These charts may have been posted before but i Don't believe Ive seen them on this board, and I believe they're a good starting point, even though they just Show relationship ties and family status etc..

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http://theblackhand.club/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7050
Thanks for linking this thread.. Perhaps later on a chart or simple list could be made regarding specific individuals working In and out of Venezuela.

- Kyrieleis

Re: Rizzuto-Bonanno Membership

by johnny_scootch » Tue Mar 14, 2023 6:33 pm

kyrieleis wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 4:13 pm
I would love to hear what you have regarding Venezuela.. I know Nick Rizzuto Sr made connections there and talked with some Calabrians/Sicilians while in Venezuela but havent come across any specific names.

On the other topic, I believe many of the Sicilians were more temporary in montreal. They most likely came and went depending on business from what I've read. These charts may have been posted before but i Don't believe Ive seen them on this board, and I believe they're a good starting point, even though they just Show relationship ties and family status etc..

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http://theblackhand.club/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7050

Re: Rizzuto-Bonanno Membership

by kyrieleis » Tue Mar 14, 2023 4:13 pm

B. wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 1:58 am Sciascia was no doubt connected to the Caruana-Cuntreras as well.

We discuss the Bonanno membership in Montreal on this board a lot but there hasn't been as much discussion of confirmed Sicilian mafia members who lived in Montreal and what their affiliation is/was.

With the Caruana-Cuntreras and Siculiana natives their affiliation was split between Siculiana, Venezuela, and the Bonannos. Cattolica Eraclea from what we know was mainly Bonanno members but some may have been made there. The recent info about the Ribera Family partnering with the Cattolicensi in Canada would suggest some Ribera members have lived/stayed in Montreal and I posted a lot about the Guarraggis' presence in Canada which could also suggest something.

Then you have Antonino Montagna who was apparently made in Castellammare but it's not clear if he was a member already when he lived in Montreal.

Maybe someone could make a list of confirmed Sicilian mafia members who lived there. Strong suspected members could be included too but should be said whether it's confirmed.
I would love to hear what you have regarding Venezuela.. I know Nick Rizzuto Sr made connections there and talked with some Calabrians/Sicilians while in Venezuela but havent come across any specific names.

On the other topic, I believe many of the Sicilians were more temporary in montreal. They most likely came and went depending on business from what I've read. These charts may have been posted before but i Don't believe Ive seen them on this board, and I believe they're a good starting point, even though they just Show relationship ties and family status etc..

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Re: Rizzuto-Bonanno Membership

by kyrieleis » Tue Mar 14, 2023 4:05 pm

CabriniGreen wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 2:17 am
kyrieleis wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 12:00 pm
motorfab wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:53 am I'm not sure why you are laughing, the chart is quite close to what the hiearchy looked like in 1993 IMO. Except Desjardins was obviously not made but well connected, and Albanese probably wasn't made neither

What exactly do you reproach to this chart? If it's for the Gambino Crime Family mention, it's likely because Sciascia was connected to the Bergen Crew and the Zips in that Family.
Laughing at the reply.. Not the chart..

- Kyrieleis
You don't make no sense...lmao...
I ain't doing no emojis... thats for kids...
Whatever floats your boat pal..

- Kyrieleis

Re: Rizzuto-Bonanno Membership

by CabriniGreen » Tue Mar 14, 2023 2:17 am

kyrieleis wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 12:00 pm
motorfab wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:53 am I'm not sure why you are laughing, the chart is quite close to what the hiearchy looked like in 1993 IMO. Except Desjardins was obviously not made but well connected, and Albanese probably wasn't made neither

What exactly do you reproach to this chart? If it's for the Gambino Crime Family mention, it's likely because Sciascia was connected to the Bergen Crew and the Zips in that Family.
Laughing at the reply.. Not the chart..

- Kyrieleis
You don't make no sense...lmao...
I ain't doing no emojis... thats for kids...

Re: Rizzuto-Bonanno Membership

by B. » Tue Mar 14, 2023 1:58 am

Sciascia was no doubt connected to the Caruana-Cuntreras as well.

We discuss the Bonanno membership in Montreal on this board a lot but there hasn't been as much discussion of confirmed Sicilian mafia members who lived in Montreal and what their affiliation is/was.

With the Caruana-Cuntreras and Siculiana natives their affiliation was split between Siculiana, Venezuela, and the Bonannos. Cattolica Eraclea from what we know was mainly Bonanno members but some may have been made there. The recent info about the Ribera Family partnering with the Cattolicensi in Canada would suggest some Ribera members have lived/stayed in Montreal and I posted a lot about the Guarraggis' presence in Canada which could also suggest something.

Then you have Antonino Montagna who was apparently made in Castellammare but it's not clear if he was a member already when he lived in Montreal.

Maybe someone could make a list of confirmed Sicilian mafia members who lived there. Strong suspected members could be included too but should be said whether it's confirmed.

Re: Rizzuto-Bonanno Membership

by kyrieleis » Fri Mar 10, 2023 12:01 pm

:D :D :D :?

Re: Rizzuto-Bonanno Membership

by kyrieleis » Fri Mar 10, 2023 12:00 pm

motorfab wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:53 am I'm not sure why you are laughing, the chart is quite close to what the hiearchy looked like in 1993 IMO. Except Desjardins was obviously not made but well connected, and Albanese probably wasn't made neither

What exactly do you reproach to this chart? If it's for the Gambino Crime Family mention, it's likely because Sciascia was connected to the Bergen Crew and the Zips in that Family.
Laughing at the reply.. Not the chart..

- Kyrieleis

Re: Rizzuto-Bonanno Membership

by motorfab » Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:53 am

I'm not sure why you are laughing, the chart is quite close to what the hiearchy looked like in 1993 IMO. Except Desjardins was obviously not made but well connected, and Albanese probably wasn't made neither

What exactly do you reproach to this chart? If it's for the Gambino Crime Family mention, it's likely because Sciascia was connected to the Bergen Crew and the Zips in that Family.

Re: Rizzuto-Bonanno Membership

by kyrieleis » Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:16 am

CabriniGreen wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:52 pm
kyrieleis wrote: Wed Mar 08, 2023 2:04 pm
OcSleeper wrote: Wed Mar 08, 2023 1:47 pm Any charts showing the "Rizzuto/Montreal family" would be essentially complete fabrication, especially if it showed Giuseppe LoPresti on it. All we've ever known the usually names (Rizzuto, Renda, Di Maulo, etc) on these chart/lists as are Bonanno members. Them becoming their own independent family has never really been confirmed

And Motorfab post he shared is probably the best one for identifying the members of the crew.
Thanks, , One specific chart I can recall is a 1993 "relations" chart from a news article of some sort - obviously not the most reliable But had me curious.

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No actually... I believe this is HIGHLY ACCURATE....
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Rizzuto-Bonanno Membership

by CabriniGreen » Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:52 pm

kyrieleis wrote: Wed Mar 08, 2023 2:04 pm
OcSleeper wrote: Wed Mar 08, 2023 1:47 pm Any charts showing the "Rizzuto/Montreal family" would be essentially complete fabrication, especially if it showed Giuseppe LoPresti on it. All we've ever known the usually names (Rizzuto, Renda, Di Maulo, etc) on these chart/lists as are Bonanno members. Them becoming their own independent family has never really been confirmed

And Motorfab post he shared is probably the best one for identifying the members of the crew.
Thanks, , One specific chart I can recall is a 1993 "relations" chart from a news article of some sort - obviously not the most reliable But had me curious.

Image
No actually... I believe this is HIGHLY ACCURATE....

Re: Rizzuto-Bonanno Membership

by motorfab » Wed Mar 08, 2023 11:40 pm

Yeap, it a chart released in La Presse (a newspaper in Quebec) in 1993

Re: Rizzuto-Bonanno Membership

by kyrieleis » Wed Mar 08, 2023 2:04 pm

OcSleeper wrote: Wed Mar 08, 2023 1:47 pm Any charts showing the "Rizzuto/Montreal family" would be essentially complete fabrication, especially if it showed Giuseppe LoPresti on it. All we've ever known the usually names (Rizzuto, Renda, Di Maulo, etc) on these chart/lists as are Bonanno members. Them becoming their own independent family has never really been confirmed

And Motorfab post he shared is probably the best one for identifying the members of the crew.
Thanks, , One specific chart I can recall is a 1993 "relations" chart from a news article of some sort - obviously not the most reliable But had me curious.

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