by Nasabeak » Thu Mar 09, 2023 12:06 am
CornerBoy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 8:16 pm
good point wiseguy and new era. he just had that magnetism or leadership lol that made others gravitate towards him.
Horrible human being though.
I could never tell my brother not to plead out knowing it would cost him an extra 20 years in prison.
Maybe that's why I'm not a mobster or "built like that"
Imagine murdering someone b/c some asshole tells you to? or murdering someone at all unless they hurt your mother or something
Trillions of soldiers throughout history that killed an enemy in combat could easily imagine murdering someone because some asshole told them to. By that I mean, rules are rules. Whatever else John Gotti was, he believed in his life. His chosen path. As much as one might believe in their marriage, or in a religion. And he was a flawed guy, and perhaps his interpretation of those rules was poor. But he made his choices, owned them, and in the end faced them by doing life in prison. Didn’t cry or complain that he was persecuted. Even on the tapes you hear him saying he might get killed tomorrow, or 100 years from now, and speaks of “when” he’ll be in jail - not if. He wasn’t gonna lay down and accept being killed, but if it happened it happened. Just like he wasn’t gonna surrender himself to the FBI and voluntarily do life, but if it was gonna happen it was gonna happen.
John had the same surety of self, the same sense of being a part of some larger story, and the same animalistic charisma that men in other fields like JFK, or Trump, or Bill Gates or whoever had - they believed ultimately in themselves and their cause. For John that cause was Cosa Nostra.
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good point wiseguy and new era. he just had that magnetism or leadership lol that made others gravitate towards him.
Horrible human being though.
I could never tell my brother not to plead out knowing it would cost him an extra 20 years in prison.
Maybe that's why I'm not a mobster or "built like that"
Imagine murdering someone b/c some asshole tells you to? or murdering someone at all unless they hurt your mother or something
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Trillions of soldiers throughout history that killed an enemy in combat could easily imagine murdering someone because some asshole told them to. By that I mean, rules are rules. Whatever else John Gotti was, he believed in his life. His chosen path. As much as one might believe in their marriage, or in a religion. And he was a flawed guy, and perhaps his interpretation of those rules was poor. But he made his choices, owned them, and in the end faced them by doing life in prison. Didn’t cry or complain that he was persecuted. Even on the tapes you hear him saying he might get killed tomorrow, or 100 years from now, and speaks of “when” he’ll be in jail - not if. He wasn’t gonna lay down and accept being killed, but if it happened it happened. Just like he wasn’t gonna surrender himself to the FBI and voluntarily do life, but if it was gonna happen it was gonna happen.
John had the same surety of self, the same sense of being a part of some larger story, and the same animalistic charisma that men in other fields like JFK, or Trump, or Bill Gates or whoever had - they believed ultimately in themselves and their cause. For John that cause was Cosa Nostra.