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Re: last godfathers

by outfit guy » Thu Mar 02, 2023 6:27 pm

Men of honour: The confessions of Tommaso Buscetta by Tim Shawcross
Boss of Bosses: A Journey into the Heart of the Sicilian Mafia by Clare Longrigg

Re: last godfathers

by OmarSantista » Thu Mar 02, 2023 12:19 pm

Thank you all, graciously

Re: last godfathers

by Dwalin2014 » Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:51 am

CabriniGreen wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:46 am
Dwalin2014 wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:12 am
CabriniGreen wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:56 am
OmarSantista wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:19 pm From page 61-62 talks about one of the first attacks from the Leggio-Greco Brother's alliance against the historical Palermitan families and I was theorizing and thought to bring the theory here to see what other's think.

Long story short Salvatore La Barbera get's killed, his brother demands an explanation from other bosses but nobody knows, a month passes and a car explodes in front of the Greco's brother's house, no one is hurt as the Greco brother is gone, the house is destroyed and again nobody knows. Soon after so much unknown, secretive and mysteriousness during the meetings, due to Luciano Leggio and the Greco brothers uncontrollably the first mafia war began in 1962. My theory is the car bomb in front of the Greco's was likely planted by Greco-Leggio alliance to make it look like they were being targeted as well when in reality they were the rock in the shoe.
It was eventually concluded that Michele Cavataio was behind these attacks. I don't know about confirmed, but it was the conclusion Buscetta and the Grecos came to...
According to the book "Addio Cosa Nostra" by Pino Arlacchi, based on Buscetta's interviews, Salvatore La Barbera was killed by the Commission bosses because they blamed the La Barbera brothers for the murder of Calcedonio Di Pisa, which was in reality committed by Michele Cavataio. The book also says that Cavataio was supported by Antonino Matranga, Mariano Troia and Lorenzo Motisi, who were in conflict with the rest of the commission because they refused to resign from the position of family bosses, when they became Commission members (the first Commission was supposed to include members who weren't bosses of their own families).
Great info.... That's one I have to get. Haven't read it yet...

Is it in Italian?
Yes, I read it in Italian, unfortunately I don't know if there is an English translation.

Re: last godfathers

by CabriniGreen » Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:46 am

Dwalin2014 wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:12 am
CabriniGreen wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:56 am
OmarSantista wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:19 pm From page 61-62 talks about one of the first attacks from the Leggio-Greco Brother's alliance against the historical Palermitan families and I was theorizing and thought to bring the theory here to see what other's think.

Long story short Salvatore La Barbera get's killed, his brother demands an explanation from other bosses but nobody knows, a month passes and a car explodes in front of the Greco's brother's house, no one is hurt as the Greco brother is gone, the house is destroyed and again nobody knows. Soon after so much unknown, secretive and mysteriousness during the meetings, due to Luciano Leggio and the Greco brothers uncontrollably the first mafia war began in 1962. My theory is the car bomb in front of the Greco's was likely planted by Greco-Leggio alliance to make it look like they were being targeted as well when in reality they were the rock in the shoe.
It was eventually concluded that Michele Cavataio was behind these attacks. I don't know about confirmed, but it was the conclusion Buscetta and the Grecos came to...
According to the book "Addio Cosa Nostra" by Pino Arlacchi, based on Buscetta's interviews, Salvatore La Barbera was killed by the Commission bosses because they blamed the La Barbera brothers for the murder of Calcedonio Di Pisa, which was in reality committed by Michele Cavataio. The book also says that Cavataio was supported by Antonino Matranga, Mariano Troia and Lorenzo Motisi, who were in conflict with the rest of the commission because they refused to resign from the position of family bosses, when they became Commission members (the first Commission was supposed to include members who weren't bosses of their own families).
Great info.... That's one I have to get. Haven't read it yet...

Is it in Italian?

Re: last godfathers

by motorfab » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:58 am

+1. Also confirmed by Calderone in Men of Dishonor, they realized later it was Cavataio who was behind these attacks, which lead to the via Lazio Massacre in 1969 and the murder Antonino Matranga later in 1970. Some others men also were killed later, like Giuseppe Sirchia in 1978

Re: last godfathers

by Dwalin2014 » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:12 am

CabriniGreen wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:56 am
OmarSantista wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:19 pm From page 61-62 talks about one of the first attacks from the Leggio-Greco Brother's alliance against the historical Palermitan families and I was theorizing and thought to bring the theory here to see what other's think.

Long story short Salvatore La Barbera get's killed, his brother demands an explanation from other bosses but nobody knows, a month passes and a car explodes in front of the Greco's brother's house, no one is hurt as the Greco brother is gone, the house is destroyed and again nobody knows. Soon after so much unknown, secretive and mysteriousness during the meetings, due to Luciano Leggio and the Greco brothers uncontrollably the first mafia war began in 1962. My theory is the car bomb in front of the Greco's was likely planted by Greco-Leggio alliance to make it look like they were being targeted as well when in reality they were the rock in the shoe.
It was eventually concluded that Michele Cavataio was behind these attacks. I don't know about confirmed, but it was the conclusion Buscetta and the Grecos came to...
According to the book "Addio Cosa Nostra" by Pino Arlacchi, based on Buscetta's interviews, Salvatore La Barbera was killed by the Commission bosses because they blamed the La Barbera brothers for the murder of Calcedonio Di Pisa, which was in reality committed by Michele Cavataio. The book also says that Cavataio was supported by Antonino Matranga, Mariano Troia and Lorenzo Motisi, who were in conflict with the rest of the commission because they refused to resign from the position of family bosses, when they became Commission members (the first Commission was supposed to include members who weren't bosses of their own families).

Re: last godfathers

by CabriniGreen » Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:56 am

OmarSantista wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:19 pm From page 61-62 talks about one of the first attacks from the Leggio-Greco Brother's alliance against the historical Palermitan families and I was theorizing and thought to bring the theory here to see what other's think.

Long story short Salvatore La Barbera get's killed, his brother demands an explanation from other bosses but nobody knows, a month passes and a car explodes in front of the Greco's brother's house, no one is hurt as the Greco brother is gone, the house is destroyed and again nobody knows. Soon after so much unknown, secretive and mysteriousness during the meetings, due to Luciano Leggio and the Greco brothers uncontrollably the first mafia war began in 1962. My theory is the car bomb in front of the Greco's was likely planted by Greco-Leggio alliance to make it look like they were being targeted as well when in reality they were the rock in the shoe.
It was eventually concluded that Michele Cavataio was behind these attacks. I don't know about confirmed, but it was the conclusion Buscetta and the Grecos came to...

Re: last godfathers

by CornerBoy » Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:30 am

OmarSantista wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 9:26 am I've been currently reading the same thing recently it's fascinating, do they talk about Denaro? After his capture is when I started with it
maybe a mention or two. not much

Re: last godfathers

by OmarSantista » Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:19 pm

From page 61-62 talks about one of the first attacks from the Leggio-Greco Brother's alliance against the historical Palermitan families and I was theorizing and thought to bring the theory here to see what other's think.

Long story short Salvatore La Barbera get's killed, his brother demands an explanation from other bosses but nobody knows, a month passes and a car explodes in front of the Greco's brother's house, no one is hurt as the Greco brother is gone, the house is destroyed and again nobody knows. Soon after so much unknown, secretive and mysteriousness during the meetings, due to Luciano Leggio and the Greco brothers uncontrollably the first mafia war began in 1962. My theory is the car bomb in front of the Greco's was likely planted by Greco-Leggio alliance to make it look like they were being targeted as well when in reality they were the rock in the shoe.

Re: last godfathers

by CornerBoy » Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:44 am

Thanks, guys. Who was the rat that ended up living his days out in hilton head or va bch??????? Same group as Riina? Or same organization. this shit will make ones head spin w all the names of the clans, the cosa nostra vs ndragheta vs camorra. I'm interested in Riina that sick bastard. Honor? Please. Ppl like him don't deserve to breathe. shoudl lock em in a 4 x 4 ft room for life w just enough food to survive.

Re: last godfathers

by The Greek » Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:58 pm

Men Of Dishonor

Re: last godfathers

by OmarSantista » Fri Feb 17, 2023 9:26 am

I've been currently reading the same thing recently it's fascinating, do they talk about Denaro? After his capture is when I started with it

Re: last godfathers

by johnny_scootch » Fri Feb 17, 2023 7:30 am

CornerBoy wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:23 am i read The Last Godfathers by John Follain over the last month or 2 and it was nuts. These guys like Riina and Leggio were waging war against the Government as recently as like the 80's!
This is one of my favorite books on the Sicilians, I'd read Men of Dishonor if you haven't already.

Check some of the threads in the BOOK SECTION, where a post like this would be better suited.

last godfathers

by CornerBoy » Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:23 am

i read The Last Godfathers by John Follain over the last month or 2 and it was nuts. These guys like Riina and Leggio were waging war against the Government as recently as like the 80's!

Is there anything light (not focused on courtroom proceedings) that I can read that gets more granular on Leggio or Riina or even the dude that turned rat that was part of their triumvirate? Provenzano i think or maybe bruscetta? i always confuse those Two

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