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chin_gigante wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 12:13 pm

Ivan wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 11:16 am So what percentage of made guys are actually incarcerated? (Not doing that math myself, haha, just wondering if anyone could figure it roughly real quick.)

Out of the New York families it's about 5%. For context, to work this out I referred to figures quoted in an AGI article from 2021 (Paolo Borrometi, 'Mafia: Italia-America, la nuova mappa del crimine', https://www.agi.it/cronaca/news/2021-03 ... -11767557/). The author of the article quoted the following figures as coming from 'confidential documents' obtained by AGI:

Genovese - 175
Gambino - 165
Bonanno - 132
Lucchese - 121
Colombo - 90

It's more difficult to say what the percentage would be for remaining cosa nostra families and remnants across the country. I'd imagine the percentage incarcerated would still be around 5% when factoring them in.

It's a considerable descrease from a few decades ago. In 1993, the FBI calculated that 17.79% of all cosa nostra members were incarcerated:

chin_gigante wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 7:49 am Pelullo was one of the guys along with Anthony Persiano and Salvatore Piccolo who were inducted with the approval of Nicky Scarfo Sr for their involvement in the First Plus scam. George Anastasia pointed out that it's unclear whether this group was recognised or if they were just made "in their own mind". Persiano and Piccolo later had to be re-inducted into the Philadelphia family at the 2015 ceremony that Persiano wore a wire to. As far as I'm aware there's no information out there about whether Pelullo was ever re-inducted into any family.

Nurzhamba wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 10:48 am It would be interesting to take a look at what John Pappa looks like now, because there are only photos of him when he was a young kid.

Ivan wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 11:16 am So what percentage of made guys are actually incarcerated? (Not doing that math myself, haha, just wondering if anyone could figure it roughly real quick.)