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[quote=Pmac2 post_id=246226 time=1671293926 user_id=6636]
Did Steve creas appealed get thrown out? Did they put his guy on the stand. Crazy. I remember the cell mate of some guy. Witnesses were low grade in this trial. Did a made guy except pennisi take the stand?
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No idea how David Evangalista testified against Madonna and Crea…Pennisi was a good witness but didn’t have anything to really say about the Meldish hit.Crea’s appeal is still ongoing but now it’s going to the second circuit court of appeals.

https://youtu.be/4X3Ia54lYaE Crea’s son talks about what’s currently going on with the appeal.Skip to 5 minutes and 34 seconds into that video to hear about the appeal

Did Steve creas appealed get thrown out? Did they put his guy on the stand. Crazy. I remember the cell mate of some guy. Witnesses were low grade in this trial. Did a made guy except pennisi take the stand?

The elder one hopped back in the car and told the younger "if anyone asks, you should take credit for it" -

Credit or.....oh I forgot, he's really smart.

[quote=newera_212 post_id=246129 time=1671164354 user_id=5522] Thomas Ficarotta is/was the Genovese Underboss. Took it with a big grain of salt but thought that was interesting at least.
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Big grain. BIG.

[quote=CornerBoy post_id=246145 time=1671197163 user_id=5642]
Always wondered this, and while he's told a lot of what seems like egregious bullshit on his podcast appearances, I still wonder if Pasqua and his Dad were actually on the scene like he described. IIRC he said he stayed in the car but heard the gunshot and his Dad came back in and said it was done. Surely if he wasn't on the scene at all and just made that up, the government couldn't have used him? Don't want to open up a can of worms with that eith er.

What is pasqua's version of events vis a vis the meldish hit? any links? Thanks so much
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I feel like there was a thread on here about it, or it was definitely touched on in another topic - there was also a GL about it too, a long time ago.

But, paraphrasing what he said on a podcast (the Johnny and Gene show podcast, I believe the episode still may be up) - he said that him and his Dad were brought into the Meldish hit by their Captain - supposedly Crea Junior - and they were crucial to the hit because they were friends with Meldish and would be able to set him up . The setup was that they were going to sell Meldish some heroin - they were coming up from the city to the Bronx to drop it off. When they got to Country Club or Throggs Neck or where ever it went down, both Pasquas were out of the car talking to Meldish, and the elder Pasqua told the younger one to go back to the car to get an ipad or a phone or some sort of device. The younger one says he knew what was going down and knew he wasn't going to fetch an ipad... when he got back to the car he heard a gunshot. The elder one hopped back in the car and told the younger "if anyone asks, you should take credit for it" -

That's how it went down according to Pasqua. I don't recall him mentioning where the other people who were actually convicted of the hit were at when this happened, or how they came into play at all. IIRC , Pasqua walked back his comment to the feds about hearing a gunshot and said it might have been a car door slamming (I think).

Always wondered this, and while he's told a lot of what seems like egregious bullshit on his podcast appearances, I still wonder if Pasqua and his Dad were actually on the scene like he described. IIRC he said he stayed in the car but heard the gunshot and his Dad came back in and said it was done. Surely if he wasn't on the scene at all and just made that up, the government couldn't have used him? Don't want to open up a can of worms with that eith er.

What is pasqua's version of events vis a vis the meldish hit? any links? Thanks so much

[quote=DonPeppino386 post_id=246121 time=1671158784 user_id=7639]
[quote=Ivan post_id=246091 time=1671137891 user_id=64]
[quote=DonPeppino386 post_id=246073 time=1671130860 user_id=7639]
Thanks for posting. Was a pretty good column this week.
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the latest judge retirement bulletin was way too fuckin long
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Heh not gonna argue there.
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Those are gay as hell.

"one time, a mobster thought he could lecture the judge about how the law worked... and then judge said something SASSY, really PUT HIM IN HIS PLACE"

[quote=SonnyBlackstein post_id=246113 time=1671153434 user_id=171]
How do you 'help solve a mob rubout' by identifying the wrong guy?
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Always wondered this, and while he's told a lot of what seems like egregious bullshit on his podcast appearances, I still wonder if Pasqua and his Dad were actually on the scene like he described. IIRC he said he stayed in the car but heard the gunshot and his Dad came back in and said it was done. Surely if he wasn't on the scene at all and just made that up, the government couldn't have used him? Don't want to open up a can of worms with that either.

He did say randomly, kind of peppering it in over another comment/topic on one of his appearances, that before his cooperation - Thomas Ficarotta is/was the Genovese Underboss. Took it with a big grain of salt but thought that was interesting at least.

[quote=Ivan post_id=246091 time=1671137891 user_id=64]
[quote=DonPeppino386 post_id=246073 time=1671130860 user_id=7639]
Thanks for posting. Was a pretty good column this week.
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the latest judge retirement bulletin was way too fuckin long
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Heh not gonna argue there.

How do you 'help solve a mob rubout' by identifying the wrong guy?

Thanks for posting. What does it say about the government that they use scum like Pasqua to build their cases? And at one point they were even making excuses for his blatant lies. Complete POS.

[quote=DonPeppino386 post_id=246073 time=1671130860 user_id=7639]
Thanks for posting. Was a pretty good column this week.
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the latest judge retirement bulletin was way too fuckin long

Thanks for posting. Was a pretty good column this week.

To have your own wife testify against you...that really says something. To drive a woman to that point...

[quote=newera_212 post_id=246047 time=1671113992 user_id=5522]
I wonder what Pasqua and his family were doing coming out of a hospital at 3 AM. I have a few guesses as to why him or his wife were there that late and none of them are good.

One of Pasqua's funnier stories was when he claimed the Lucchese admin asked him to drive by the MCC on a motorcycle and assassinate Michael Mancuso while he was outside on garbage duty lol
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Lmaooo that’s a good one