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by **CornerBoy** » Sat Nov 05, 2022 8:57 am

Thanks David1989

"Occasionally in law enforcemeis nt we try to use one bad guy to catch other bad guys. Sometimes this works out and sometimes is does not. When they violate our trust and commit or are suspected of committing a crime we immediately stop any association with them, as in this case,"

Occastionally? thats how they solve 99 percent of their cases and aside from a few they invariably fuck up while a cI or outright prevaricate. I still hold that this is a waste of resoucrces to go over gamblers when ms13 is killng ppl left and right, cartels, russians, big, murderous drug rings - most of this shit is so stupid. the killings deserve attention but the other stuff is so penny ante.

by **davidf1989** » Sat Nov 05, 2022 5:38 am

JoeCamel wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 9:22 am
CornerBoy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 9:58 am Can someone pls direct me to a thread or resource where I can read about how that part of mass evolved with Bruno, the guy before him and ultimately ariltotta? Like who killed who, how did the lind oc succession of bosses go, Western mass relationship to NYC..who from nyc wasa involved or conduit to that area---shit like that----THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH!! I have a lot of travel time so I'd like to get those printed off or read from my iPad.
Honestly just do a google search on Masslive.com for Springfield mafia and you’ll ge everything Stephanie Barry has written since 2002. She really has done a service to people with everything she has put to paper

Here are the FBI files from the informant John Bologna about the Springfield area.
https://www.masslive.com/news/2017/05/j ... ncy_2.html

and an article about the sentencing of Bologna

https://www.masslive.com/news/2013/05/n ... t_joh.html

by **CornerBoy** » Thu Nov 03, 2022 4:12 pm

Thanks!

by **JoeCamel** » Thu Nov 03, 2022 9:22 am

CornerBoy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 9:58 am Can someone pls direct me to a thread or resource where I can read about how that part of mass evolved with Bruno, the guy before him and ultimately ariltotta? Like who killed who, how did the lind oc succession of bosses go, Western mass relationship to NYC..who from nyc wasa involved or conduit to that area---shit like that----THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH!! I have a lot of travel time so I'd like to get those printed off or read from my iPad.

Honestly just do a google search on Masslive.com for Springfield mafia and you’ll ge everything Stephanie Barry has written since 2002. She really has done a service to people with everything she has put to paper

by **Mason_dixon** » Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:23 pm

PolackTony wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 2:40 pm
CornerBoy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 9:58 am Can someone pls direct me to a thread or resource where I can read about how that part of mass evolved with Bruno, the guy before him and ultimately ariltotta? Like who killed who, how did the lind oc succession of bosses go, Western mass relationship to NYC..who from nyc wasa involved or conduit to that area---shit like that----THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH!! I have a lot of travel time so I'd like to get those printed off or read from my iPad.
Mafia genealogist Justin Cascio has an excellent summary of the succession of Springfield bosses, and some other useful blog posts that touch on Springfield’s history (it apparently started as a Camorra organization which was later absorbed into the Genovese Family as a crew; even the latter day bosses of the Springfield crew reflect the same Italian origins as the gangsters active there in the early 20th century, so there’s clearly been a line of continuity).

https://mafiagenealogy.wordpress.com/20 ... achusetts/

Damn I'm not sure if you could ever find an article that's harder to read! A lot of information there but lacking a good editor!

by **PolackTony** » Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:08 pm

johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 6:32 pm Before a suspect was named in Grasso’s killing, the following March, Milano was arrested along with Frank Pugliano on charges of conspiracy and racketeering. But he was free on bail in October 1989, four months after the murder, sponsoring the induction of Vincent Federico into the Patriarca crime family. Federico, 30, was on a 28 hour furlough from the Massachusetts Corrections Institute at Shirley on “family business.”

Really great article but I thought this part was great. This guy got a furlough from prison and used it to go to his induction ceremony. Keeping it as real as it gets!

Yeah, that was amazing lol.

If you haven't previously read Justin's blog (not meaning you, specifically, Johnny, but everyone), there's a lot of really good stuff there. Mostly genealogy stuff that's more germane to the stuff I tend to focus on (connections back to Italy, deeper mafia history in the US), which certainly isn't everyone's cup of tea, but Justin has done a lot of useful work there.

by **johnny_scootch** » Tue Nov 01, 2022 6:32 pm

Before a suspect was named in Grasso’s killing, the following March, Milano was arrested along with Frank Pugliano on charges of conspiracy and racketeering. But he was free on bail in October 1989, four months after the murder, sponsoring the induction of Vincent Federico into the Patriarca crime family. Federico, 30, was on a 28 hour furlough from the Massachusetts Corrections Institute at Shirley on “family business.”

Really great article but I thought this part was great. This guy got a furlough from prison and used it to go to his induction ceremony. Keeping it as real as it gets!

by **PolackTony** » Tue Nov 01, 2022 2:40 pm

CornerBoy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 9:58 am Can someone pls direct me to a thread or resource where I can read about how that part of mass evolved with Bruno, the guy before him and ultimately ariltotta? Like who killed who, how did the lind oc succession of bosses go, Western mass relationship to NYC..who from nyc wasa involved or conduit to that area---shit like that----THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH!! I have a lot of travel time so I'd like to get those printed off or read from my iPad.

Mafia genealogist Justin Cascio has an excellent summary of the succession of Springfield bosses, and some other useful blog posts that touch on Springfield’s history (it apparently started as a Camorra organization which was later absorbed into the Genovese Family as a crew; even the latter day bosses of the Springfield crew reflect the same Italian origins as the gangsters active there in the early 20th century, so there’s clearly been a line of continuity).

https://mafiagenealogy.wordpress.com/20 ... achusetts/

by **TallGuy19** » Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:59 am

mlm0047 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:41 am What about the bookmaker ceccetilli ? Yes I know I spelled the name wrong but what is / was his deal? If he is an associate of the genovese’s that speaks to the quality of people out there the last 20 years

He was an associate with the Genovese Springfield crew. Tom La Vecchia interviewed him a few weeks ago:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QQIYN12hE0E

by **mlm0047** » Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:41 am

What about the bookmaker ceccetilli ? Yes I know I spelled the name wrong but what is / was his deal? If he is an associate of the genovese’s that speaks to the quality of people out there the last 20 years

by **TallGuy19** » Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:25 am

You can listen to Anthony Arillotta's interviews. He covers pretty much all of that.

by **CornerBoy** » Tue Nov 01, 2022 9:58 am

Can someone pls direct me to a thread or resource where I can read about how that part of mass evolved with Bruno, the guy before him and ultimately ariltotta? Like who killed who, how did the lind oc succession of bosses go, Western mass relationship to NYC..who from nyc wasa involved or conduit to that area---shit like that----THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH!! I have a lot of travel time so I'd like to get those printed off or read from my iPad.

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