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Re: Tony Lee

by Pogo The Clown » Wed Sep 21, 2022 7:21 pm

Ruggiero was sponsored for membership by Carmine Fatico.


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Re: Tony Lee

by Browniety86 » Tue Sep 20, 2022 7:50 pm

Shellackhead wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 7:46 pm
johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 9:14 am I don’t think Fat Andy was a captain, he had a crew like Bruno Facciolo had a crew. A ton of really capable guys under him and several got straightened out eventually but it wasn’t a decina. I thought all those guy started out under Charlie Wagons.
Who’s crew would Andy be in? Charlie Wagons? And I think his own said that he wasn’t actually a captain he was just a really respected mobster with a big crew. He said he was reluctant to propose them because he saw the potential
Some of the guys had until much later on
Possibly Mike Caiazza? I know Andy was close to him

Re: Tony Lee

by Shellackhead » Tue Sep 20, 2022 7:46 pm

johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 9:14 am I don’t think Fat Andy was a captain, he had a crew like Bruno Facciolo had a crew. A ton of really capable guys under him and several got straightened out eventually but it wasn’t a decina. I thought all those guy started out under Charlie Wagons.
Who’s crew would Andy be in? Charlie Wagons? And I think his own said that he wasn’t actually a captain he was just a really respected mobster with a big crew. He said he was reluctant to propose them because he saw the potential
Some of the guys had until much later on

Re: Tony Lee

by Browniety86 » Tue Sep 20, 2022 7:30 pm

Pmac2 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 7:05 pm Tony Lee went on trial with getting for ordering the shooting of that union big. Was that before or after getting became boss. I think after. Pretty telling the boss is giving orders to a soldier. He must have been respected
It was after.

Re: Tony Lee

by Pmac2 » Tue Sep 20, 2022 7:05 pm

Tony Lee went on trial with getting for ordering the shooting of that union big. Was that before or after getting became boss. I think after. Pretty telling the boss is giving orders to a soldier. He must have been respected

Re: Tony Lee

by Browniety86 » Tue Sep 20, 2022 6:27 pm

dave wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 4:21 pm Gotti also wanted to make Tony Lee a Captain, but Tony Lee declined. Tony Lee didn't tell Gotti or anyone else he had health issues at the time. This is according to Anthony Ruggiano on his Johnny and Gene Show appearance.
I've never really thought about why Tony Lee wasnt a Gotti captain. Makes sense, he died not long after John got the life bit...

Re: Tony Lee

by dave » Tue Sep 20, 2022 4:21 pm

Gotti also wanted to make Tony Lee a Captain, but Tony Lee declined. Tony Lee didn't tell Gotti or anyone else he had health issues at the time. This is according to Anthony Ruggiano on his Johnny and Gene Show appearance.

Re: Tony Lee

by Browniety86 » Tue Sep 20, 2022 1:37 pm

johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 9:14 am I don’t think Fat Andy was a captain, he had a crew like Bruno Facciolo had a crew. A ton of really capable guys under him and several got straightened out eventually but it wasn’t a decina. I thought all those guy started out under Charlie Wagons.
That'd explain why Gotti was close to Ruggiano...

Re: Tony Lee

by johnny_scootch » Tue Sep 20, 2022 9:14 am

I don’t think Fat Andy was a captain, he had a crew like Bruno Facciolo had a crew. A ton of really capable guys under him and several got straightened out eventually but it wasn’t a decina. I thought all those guy started out under Charlie Wagons.

Re: Tony Lee

by Ryan98366 » Tue Sep 20, 2022 8:41 am

I think Fat Andy was a captain like Scarpa was a captain. Was he? Wasn’t he? He probably was. Yet he wasn’t. It seems like a lot of unknown. Not sure why all the uncertainty on his status however.

My vote is he was a captain at some point.

Re: Tony Lee

by Browniety86 » Tue Sep 20, 2022 6:43 am

Pmac2 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:22 am Think big Paul made fat Andy a capo in the late 70tys. All those guys were in his crew and the corrozzos
I'm pretty sure Ruggiano was a captain when he went on the lam in the 80s...

Re: Tony Lee

by Rocco » Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:38 am

Always thought Fat Andy was the Capo that was in Charge of the FL crew?

Re: Tony Lee

by Pmac2 » Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:22 am

Think big Paul made fat Andy a capo in the late 70tys. All those guys were in his crew and the corrozzos

Re: Tony Lee

by Shellackhead » Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:23 pm

Browniety86 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:10 pm Was Fat Andy Ruggiano Tony Lee and his brother Mikey Gal's capo? Watched a semi interesting YouTube video where Fat Andy's son interview Tommy Flash More and they talked alot of Tony Lee, but I didnt catch who he was under? Was he a hitter? He seemed to be close to John Sr...I'm just going off memory but for some reason I'm thinking Andy Ruggiano wasnt their captain and they were with a Jersey based crew...
I think Ruggiano was one of those really strong made guys that were viewed as captains but really weren’t

Tony Lee

by Browniety86 » Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:10 pm

Was Fat Andy Ruggiano Tony Lee and his brother Mikey Gal's capo? Watched a semi interesting YouTube video where Fat Andy's son interview Tommy Flash More and they talked alot of Tony Lee, but I didnt catch who he was under? Was he a hitter? He seemed to be close to John Sr...I'm just going off memory but for some reason I'm thinking Andy Ruggiano wasnt their captain and they were with a Jersey based crew...

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