THE BLACK HAND FORUM

[quote="toto"][quote="Antiliar"]Galante may already have been made earlier. He killed a police officer in 1930 and was in prison until 1939. Could have been made when he came out.[/quote]
I don't think this will count. He must kill on the request of Cosa Nostra. Remember, they ask clearly "will you kill for us?" or similar kind of question.[/quote]

He has to be willing to kill at the request of the Cosa Nostra. He already proved that he was willing to kill. Compare to Angelo Lonardo. His killings were personal, but it showed he was willing to kill if necessary. Plus both Galante and Lonardo were known all their lives in their communities and were related to other known made Mafia members. When Galante came out of prison and was asked, "Will you kill for us?" his answer would have been obvious. "Yes." He doesn't need to do additional killings to prove himself since he already did prove himself not only be killing, but by sitting in prison. Those two things earned him respect in the criminal world.

[quote="Antiliar"]Galante may already have been made earlier. He killed a police officer in 1930 and was in prison until 1939. Could have been made when he came out.[/quote]
I don't think this will count. He must kill on the request of Cosa Nostra. Remember, they ask clearly "will you kill for us?" or similar kind of question.

Doing less than 10 years for killing a cop. Talk about being lucky.


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Galante may already have been made earlier. He killed a police officer in 1930 and was in prison until 1939. Could have been made when he came out.

[quote="HairyKnuckles"]That piece of work my have been Galante´s ticket into becoming made. I have the feeling that he may have been very close to Garofalo and once made, was put directly with him/administration (before given a crew when Garofalo retired). I can´t prove it or anything so don´t ask me for sources lol.[/quote]

Yeah, I suspect he was made in the 1940s after this as well. Depends on when they started allowing new members, but could be among the first guys to get the button in the mid-late 1940s.

He was probably a captain by the time he first went to Montreal around 1952. His crew was really all over the place... soldiers in Jersey, Bronx, Brooklyn, Queens, LES, Montreal.

Just looked up Galante's mugshot from 1943 and the poor guy is bald already! I'll be 32 in a couple months and he looks fifteen years older than I do! The life of a mobster...

That piece of work my have been Galante´s ticket into becoming made. I have the feeling that he may have been very close to Garofalo and once made, was put directly with him/administration (before given a crew when Garofalo retired). I can´t prove it or anything so don´t ask me for sources lol.

Yea,Id tend to think a book on the man himself would be more accurate. Good response, man.

There's some decent books on the Tresca murder that go into detail on Galante and Garofalo. The Genovese connection was bad intel. I don't think he had anything to do with it all. Tresca confronted and pissed off Garofalo, and he ordered Galante to take him out. That's all there is to it.

I recommend this book:
https://books.google.com/books?id=BgSRgI6RCjQC&pg=PA278&lpg=PA278&dq=tresca+galante&source=bl&ots=rbFLT2oPQd&sig=fbJavmnwj7WVs2Y_PzHG4GHhOcI&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi6rL_E-5HKAhVC2WMKHSr3DNwQ6AEILjAC#v=onepage&q=tresca%20galante&f=false

Never read that one. But fair enough.

[quote="OlBlueEyesClub"]Yea, I always figured Galante was always Bonanno based on his heritage alone. I think Bonanno also mentions Garofalo having some gripes with Tresca as well in his book and the movie based on the book. With the Mafia Inc. book being from 2010 and being so acclaimed by some, you think they would've doubled back on the resources for some of this stuff.[/quote]

None of the Canadian books I've read should be considered reliable sources of info on the NY families. That includes the Paul Volpe book from years back.

Yea, I always figured Galante was always Bonanno based on his heritage alone. I think Bonanno also mentions Garofalo having some gripes with Tresca as well in his book and the movie based on the book. With the Mafia Inc. book being from 2010 and being so acclaimed by some, you think they would've doubled back on the resources for some of this stuff.

Galante comes from Castellammare heritage with relatives who were all affiliated with the Bonannos going back to the early days of the family. Very unlikely he was ever affiliated with anyone else.

Since the Tresca hit was a major media story, there is a lot of hazy and misinformed info about it. Maybe the "order" came from Genovese, but supposedly Garofalo was involved as well which would be a Bonanno connection. The media and even LE probably didn't understand the way the families are divided and orders are carried out.

And even with all of that... I'd be curious what we really know as fact when it comes to this hit.

Sorry if this has been covered on this forum before, apologizing ahead of time if it was. But I'm currently reading [i]Mafia Inc.[/i], the book about the Sicilian clan of The Montreal Mafia, and it's on to the subject of Carmine Galante and the Tresca hit. They report witnesses seeing a short, heavyset man get out of black Ford sedan, shooting Tresca once in the head and getting back into the car as it speeds off. It says the authorities always suspected Carmine was the guy and that when they arrested him, he was driving the same black Ford sedan, but they had no proof to support the murder, so they gave him a much lesser charge and he was pretty much out in days. The interesting thing though, is that it says that Genovese ordered Galante to kill Tresca, and I always wondered how Genovese of the then Luciano family, could have ordered a Bonanno guy to do anything. Well according to [I]Mafia Inc.[/]; It says that Galante was first under Genovese's Crew in the Luciano Family, but after they had no evidence on Galante that he was transferred to the Bonannos and placed directly under Bonanno himself. Is there any truth to this? It certainly explains this, but I always thought Galante was always with the Bonanno's...