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Re: "Mafia Index" map of Italy

by scagghiuni » Fri Dec 02, 2022 5:45 am

PolackTony wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:43 pm
Correct, of course. Their presence is reflected in the above map in Potenza province. My understanding is that the Basilischi started as an offshoot of the ‘Ndrangheta, like Cutolo’s NCO and the SCU in Puglia.
funny thing, the 'ndrangheta probably started as an offshoot of the old camorra at the ending of 1800s

Re: "Mafia Index" map of Italy

by calabrianwatch » Fri Dec 02, 2022 12:30 am

There are updates maps every six months on the DIA website if anyone is interested

Re: "Mafia Index" map of Italy

by motorfab » Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:26 pm

Oh ok, I didn't know, thank you gentlemen

Re: "Mafia Index" map of Italy

by Ivan » Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:44 pm

PolackTony wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:43 pm
Eline2015 wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 4:44 pm
motorfab wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:52 am Although surrounded by Calabria, Campania and Puglia, I have always been intrigued by the fact that there is no mafia organization (to my knowledge) born in Basilicata
There is a basilisci
Correct, of course. Their presence is reflected in the above map in Potenza province. My understanding is that the Basilischi started as an offshoot of the ‘Ndrangheta, like Cutolo’s NCO and the SCU in Puglia.

The old account until the Basilischi was formed was that Basilicata was too poor to have developed its own mafia (essentially, there was too little economic activity for a mafia to exploit and draw a surplus from). Basilicata was historically extremely undeveloped; it was like “the South of the South”. There was, however, a robust and ferocious brigandage tradition in the rugged hills of Potenza, so it wouldn’t actually shock me if some historical documentation were to be uncovered that some comuni there had criminal societies or networks at some point in the past (something like a proto-mafia). Without a doubt, in places like Chicago there were many Lucani who took to the mafia like fish to water.
Very interesting elaborations on this, fellas. I'm glad that you're enjoying the map!

Anyway, I hunted down the original academic article and it looks like this is from 2010. So, might be somewhat outdated. Anyway, here's the article (it's in English!): https://publicatt.unicatt.it/retrieve/e ... BKA%29.pdf

Re: "Mafia Index" map of Italy

by PolackTony » Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:43 pm

Eline2015 wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 4:44 pm
motorfab wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:52 am Although surrounded by Calabria, Campania and Puglia, I have always been intrigued by the fact that there is no mafia organization (to my knowledge) born in Basilicata
There is a basilisci
Correct, of course. Their presence is reflected in the above map in Potenza province. My understanding is that the Basilischi started as an offshoot of the ‘Ndrangheta, like Cutolo’s NCO and the SCU in Puglia.

The old account until the Basilischi was formed was that Basilicata was too poor to have developed its own mafia (essentially, there was too little economic activity for a mafia to exploit and draw a surplus from). Basilicata was historically extremely undeveloped; it was like “the South of the South”. There was, however, a robust and ferocious brigandage tradition in the rugged hills of Potenza, so it wouldn’t actually shock me if some historical documentation were to be uncovered that some comuni there had criminal societies or networks at some point in the past (something like a proto-mafia). Without a doubt, in places like Chicago there were many Lucani who took to the mafia like fish to water.

Re: "Mafia Index" map of Italy

by Eline2015 » Thu Dec 01, 2022 4:44 pm

motorfab wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:52 am Although surrounded by Calabria, Campania and Puglia, I have always been intrigued by the fact that there is no mafia organization (to my knowledge) born in Basilicata
There is a basilisci

Re: "Mafia Index" map of Italy

by scagghiuni » Thu Dec 01, 2022 2:32 pm

motorfab wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:52 am Although surrounded by Calabria, Campania and Puglia, I have always been intrigued by the fact that there is no mafia organization (to my knowledge) born in Basilicata
local clans answer to ndrangheta

Re: "Mafia Index" map of Italy

by motorfab » Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:52 am

Although surrounded by Calabria, Campania and Puglia, I have always been intrigued by the fact that there is no mafia organization (to my knowledge) born in Basilicata

Re: "Mafia Index" map of Italy

by scagghiuni » Thu Dec 01, 2022 8:24 am

in Milan and Rome are present all 4 major italian syndicates at the same time

Re: "Mafia Index" map of Italy

by CabriniGreen » Mon Sep 12, 2022 11:16 pm

Wiseguy wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:45 pm
Amershire_Ed wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:31 pm Is most mafia activity outside of the south (Rome, Emilia-Romagna, etc) the result of Calabrians or Sicilians moving there to open up shop? Or is the mafia activity coming from Italians indigenous to those regions?
While there have and are Italian groups indigenous to those regions, like the "Mafia Capitale" group in Rome for example, most of that is members and affiliates of the syndicates based in southern Italy and Sicily setting up operations in the north.
Yes sir....In fact, I think it was a Barbaro that was head of the " Lombardia"... like a Camera Di Controllo for Lombardy

Re: "Mafia Index" map of Italy

by Ciro_DiMarzio » Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:34 pm

PolackTony wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 9:55 am
Ciro_DiMarzio wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 9:46 am Cool map. Reggio is all red.

I wonder what that red dot northeast of Genoa is? Just from looking at maps there doesn't even seem to be a major city there.
Piacenza province, Emilia-Romagna. Not a highly urban area at all, but from what I understand it's had a major 'Ndrangheta presence for years now.
Great thanks, I never heard about this. I’ll definitely have to do some reading up on it

Re: "Mafia Index" map of Italy

by Wiseguy » Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:45 pm

Amershire_Ed wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:31 pm Is most mafia activity outside of the south (Rome, Emilia-Romagna, etc) the result of Calabrians or Sicilians moving there to open up shop? Or is the mafia activity coming from Italians indigenous to those regions?
While there have and are Italian groups indigenous to those regions, like the "Mafia Capitale" group in Rome for example, most of that is members and affiliates of the syndicates based in southern Italy and Sicily setting up operations in the north.

Re: "Mafia Index" map of Italy

by Amershire_Ed » Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:31 pm

Is most mafia activity outside of the south (Rome, Emilia-Romagna, etc) the result of Calabrians or Sicilians moving there to open up shop? Or is the mafia activity coming from Italians indigenous to those regions?

Re: "Mafia Index" map of Italy

by furiofromnaples » Mon Sep 12, 2022 10:06 am

PolackTony wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 9:55 am
Ciro_DiMarzio wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 9:46 am Cool map. Reggio is all red.

I wonder what that red dot northeast of Genoa is? Just from looking at maps there doesn't even seem to be a major city there.
Piacenza province, Emilia-Romagna. Not a highly urban area at all, but from what I understand it's had a major 'Ndrangheta presence for years now.
In this years the Aemilia process condamned 70 ndranghetisti to 700 years in prison.

Re: "Mafia Index" map of Italy

by PolackTony » Mon Sep 12, 2022 9:55 am

Ciro_DiMarzio wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 9:46 am Cool map. Reggio is all red.

I wonder what that red dot northeast of Genoa is? Just from looking at maps there doesn't even seem to be a major city there.
Piacenza province, Emilia-Romagna. Not a highly urban area at all, but from what I understand it's had a major 'Ndrangheta presence for years now.

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