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Re: Visiting Los Angeles 1963

by PolackTony » Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:43 pm

B. wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 7:07 pm Domenico Pecoraro and other Bagheresi were close to Piddu Morello in early NYC but also close to Lupo, though I've always been curious where the Bagheresi formally fit into NYC. They were close associates of the Corleonesi either way and Dragna was apparently made into Morello's Family in 1914 so he may have known some of them. You also have important guys from Prizzi (very close to Corleone) in the Milwaukee Family which was otherwise dominated by paesans from Bagheria area.

There was a younger Giovanni Bompensiero born ~1899 who arrived to an uncle named Lorenzo SanFilippo in San Diego in 1921 but he came from Santa Flavia and doesn't appear to be the uncle. Looks like Frank's uncle was another one born ~1868 who arrived in 1928 to his own son named Francesco living in Milwaukee at the time.
I think it was probably the guy born ~1899 (Porticello is a frazione of Santa Flavia, so people from Porticello will often use the name of the comune on their documents), as he is the only Giovanni/John Bompensiero that I see in the SD records. He arrived to SD in 1921 and thus he was already living there when Bomp would’ve arrived in the mid-20s (Giovanni worked as a fisherman in SD, as Frank did as a young man). His eldest son was named Peter, and I have Frank’s father’s (Giuseppe Bompensiero, born ~1875 in Porticello) father as Pietro Bompensiero. Giovanni Bompensiero died in SD in 1975.

Another likely link is SanFilippo, as Frank’s wife was Thelma SanFilippo, born in Milwaukee to parents from Porticello.

Correction: I checked out the Nipitu book, and it looks like after killing a guy in 1923, Frank’s uncle Giovanni in Milwaukee told Frank to call Jack Dragna for protection. Frank told Dragna that he had cousins in SD, Giovanni and Matteo, who were fishermen and that he would go there and live with them.

So it looks like the older guy was the uncle and the younger one in SD was a first cousin. The info that I had found from a family tree on Frank’s genealogy was also erroneous; his grandfather was actually named Francesco (hence both Giuseppe and Giovanni naming their first sons Francesco, of course). Pietro, the father of Giovanni and Matteo Bompensiero in SD, was another of Frank’s uncles. Interestingly, the book also states that Bompensiero was not their original surname, but that the brothers had adopted it from a visiting wealthy man named Bernardo Bompensiero (probably Buonpensiero originally) from Brindisi, Puglia who moved to Porticello and married their mother after their father Francesco died.

Re: Visiting Los Angeles 1963

by B. » Thu Nov 10, 2022 7:07 pm

Domenico Pecoraro and other Bagheresi were close to Piddu Morello in early NYC but also close to Lupo, though I've always been curious where the Bagheresi formally fit into NYC. They were close associates of the Corleonesi either way and Dragna was apparently made into Morello's Family in 1914 so he may have known some of them. You also have important guys from Prizzi (very close to Corleone) in the Milwaukee Family which was otherwise dominated by paesans from Bagheria area.

There was a younger Giovanni Bompensiero born ~1899 who arrived to an uncle named Lorenzo SanFilippo in San Diego in 1921 but he came from Santa Flavia and doesn't appear to be the uncle. Looks like Frank's uncle was another one born ~1868 who arrived in 1928 to his own son named Francesco living in Milwaukee at the time.

Re: Visiting Los Angeles 1963

by PolackTony » Thu Nov 10, 2022 6:41 pm

B. wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 6:04 pm Very interesting info, DR. If Bomp's uncle did know Dragna already that would indicate Frank's family had existing mafia ties which wouldn't be too surprising based on where they're from in Sicily. There is/was a longstanding relationship between Corleone and Bagheria. I've never seen him make reference to it in his cooperation, though.
We’ve discussed before the possibility that Bompensiero may have purposely avoided talking about his familial background to protect relatives.

San Diego’s Little Italy had a prominent colony from Porticello, Santa Flavia (many of whom had worked as fishermen in Santa Flavia, and continued in that line of work in San Diego), so it would be unsurprising, though obviously very nice to know, that Bomp may have had a familial connection to the mafia there.

Re: Visiting Los Angeles 1963

by B. » Thu Nov 10, 2022 6:04 pm

Very interesting info, DR. If Bomp's uncle did know Dragna already that would indicate Frank's family had existing mafia ties which wouldn't be too surprising based on where they're from in Sicily. There is/was a longstanding relationship between Corleone and Bagheria. I've never seen him make reference to it in his cooperation, though.

Re: Visiting Los Angeles 1963

by MightyDR » Thu Nov 10, 2022 5:47 pm

PolackTony wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 3:03 pm
MightyDR wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 1:07 pm
davidf1989 wrote: Wed Nov 09, 2022 2:15 am
B. wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:08 pm Bompensiero said the guy made in Sicily from Detroit named Jack Pace/Pollina may have been from Trapani. Alcamo is a good guess given how many of the Detroit/San Diego guys were Alcamese.
Was Bompensiero close to Jack Dragna and his relatives? This article https://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/199 ... ied-tight/ is about Frank's ties to the dragna family such as being in business with Louis Tom Dragna.
I'm reading "Niputi" by Frank Bompensiero's nephew at the moment. He says that when Frank was a young man, he got in trouble in Milwaukee and went to his uncle for help. His uncle was close to Jack Dragna from back in Sicily and told Frank to go to California and get help from Dragna. That's about as far as I've got in the book but it looks like Dragna took Bompensiero under his wing from then on.
Interesting, thanks for sharing this. The mafia in Corleone seemed to have had links to the mafia in the Bagheria area, as both were documented as calling themselves “fratuzzi” in the 19th century, so there may have indeed been a context for familial links to Dragna from back in Sicily. Did the book give the uncle’s name?
Giovanni Bompensiero. Although he changed his name to John Bonpenser in the USA. Originally from Porticello, Sicily.

Re: Visiting Los Angeles 1963

by PolackTony » Thu Nov 10, 2022 3:03 pm

MightyDR wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 1:07 pm
davidf1989 wrote: Wed Nov 09, 2022 2:15 am
B. wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:08 pm Bompensiero said the guy made in Sicily from Detroit named Jack Pace/Pollina may have been from Trapani. Alcamo is a good guess given how many of the Detroit/San Diego guys were Alcamese.
Was Bompensiero close to Jack Dragna and his relatives? This article https://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/199 ... ied-tight/ is about Frank's ties to the dragna family such as being in business with Louis Tom Dragna.
I'm reading "Niputi" by Frank Bompensiero's nephew at the moment. He says that when Frank was a young man, he got in trouble in Milwaukee and went to his uncle for help. His uncle was close to Jack Dragna from back in Sicily and told Frank to go to California and get help from Dragna. That's about as far as I've got in the book but it looks like Dragna took Bompensiero under his wing from then on.
Interesting, thanks for sharing this. The mafia in Corleone seemed to have had links to the mafia in the Bagheria area, as both were documented as calling themselves “fratuzzi” in the 19th century, so there may have indeed been a context for familial links to Dragna from back in Sicily. Did the book give the uncle’s name?

Re: Visiting Los Angeles 1963

by MightyDR » Thu Nov 10, 2022 1:07 pm

davidf1989 wrote: Wed Nov 09, 2022 2:15 am
B. wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:08 pm Bompensiero said the guy made in Sicily from Detroit named Jack Pace/Pollina may have been from Trapani. Alcamo is a good guess given how many of the Detroit/San Diego guys were Alcamese.
Was Bompensiero close to Jack Dragna and his relatives? This article https://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/199 ... ied-tight/ is about Frank's ties to the dragna family such as being in business with Louis Tom Dragna.
I'm reading "Niputi" by Frank Bompensiero's nephew at the moment. He says that when Frank was a young man, he got in trouble in Milwaukee and went to his uncle for help. His uncle was close to Jack Dragna from back in Sicily and told Frank to go to California and get help from Dragna. That's about as far as I've got in the book but it looks like Dragna took Bompensiero under his wing from then on.

Re: Visiting Los Angeles 1963

by davidf1989 » Wed Nov 09, 2022 2:15 am

B. wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:08 pm Bompensiero said the guy made in Sicily from Detroit named Jack Pace/Pollina may have been from Trapani. Alcamo is a good guess given how many of the Detroit/San Diego guys were Alcamese.
Was Bompensiero close to Jack Dragna and his relatives? This article https://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/199 ... ied-tight/ is about Frank's ties to the dragna family such as being in business with Louis Tom Dragna.

Re: Visiting Los Angeles 1963

by PolackTony » Tue Oct 11, 2022 9:40 am

Antiliar wrote: Mon Oct 10, 2022 10:53 pm The 1923 marriage record for Nicholas Licata in Detroit includes the witnesses Gaspare "Majardino" and Caroline "Majardino." There was a Gaspare Magaddino born in Castellammare on 3/25/1888 married to Caroline Galante (or Arena) Magaddino living in Chicago (2513 Monroe Street) in 1930. Later they moved to Niagara Falls. Gaspare's father was probably Martino Magaddino and he was probably a cousin of Steve. Newspaper articles they used the surname "Magardino." Interesting also that Nick Licata's parents came to America in 1914 and stayed with two of their sons living at 437 Marcy Ave in Brooklyn and across the street from Cola Schiro who lived at 432 Marcy. Rosario Tarantola lived at 437 in 1920.
Very interesting stuff. Gaspare Maggadino married Carolina Galante in 1912 in Pueblo. 1917 they’re living at 117 Roebling St in Williamsburg BK, where Gaspare worked at one of the Brooklyn piers. In 1930 they’re in Chicago, where Gaspare stated that he worked as a food products salesmen (likely cheese/olive oil etc). By 1933 they were in Binghamton (one of their sons later remained in Endicott) and by 1940 they were living in Niagara Falls. Who knows why they were in Chicago; would be good to know who he worked for there. But there was a small but definite group of Castellammaresi there, so perhaps he had links to them (no other Maggadinos that I’ve seen, but there were Galantes).

Re: Visiting Los Angeles 1963

by Antiliar » Tue Oct 11, 2022 1:26 am

According to one informant Nick Licata's father was a member. Interestingly he died in Cheyenne, Wyoming (if it's the same person).

Re: Visiting Los Angeles 1963

by B. » Mon Oct 10, 2022 11:59 pm

Great find there. Licata was also partners with SF boss Frank Lanza in a property in Southern California when he first moved to CA. Don't know if his father was a member but he had trouble with one of the older Orlando Sciortinos at one point. Member or not, the elder Licata was def tied into the Bonanno Camporeale network.

Re: Visiting Los Angeles 1963

by Antiliar » Mon Oct 10, 2022 10:53 pm

The 1923 marriage record for Nicholas Licata in Detroit includes the witnesses Gaspare "Majardino" and Caroline "Majardino." There was a Gaspare Magaddino born in Castellammare on 3/25/1888 married to Caroline Galante (or Arena) Magaddino living in Chicago (2513 Monroe Street) in 1930. Later they moved to Niagara Falls. Gaspare's father was probably Martino Magaddino and he was probably a cousin of Steve. Newspaper articles they used the surname "Magardino." Interesting also that Nick Licata's parents came to America in 1914 and stayed with two of their sons living at 437 Marcy Ave in Brooklyn and across the street from Cola Schiro who lived at 432 Marcy. Rosario Tarantola lived at 437 in 1920.

Re: Visiting Los Angeles 1963

by PolackTony » Sat Oct 01, 2022 7:15 pm

B. wrote: Sat Oct 01, 2022 6:20 pm Yep, that makes way more sense.

There was a "Meonatto Olivero" from Piedmont I mixed him up with. So he wasn't an anomaly in Milwaukee at all and could definitely have been made in Sicily.
Gavin Schmitt stated that in 1931, Johnny Masina (also from Altavilla) was the main guy in Racine. He was killed that year in a restaurant owned by Domenico Zizzo of Racine, who was from Santa Flavia. After Masina, Angelo LaMantia (like Oliveri also from Altavilla by way of Chicago) took over and was partnered with Zizzo and “Michele Oliveri”. Schmitt states that Oliveri (clearly the same guy we’re talking about) had previously been with Joe Aiello in Chicago and fled to Racine (we’ve seen that Chicago had a big presence in Racine though, so if Oliveri was safe there it’s likely that he was shielded by transferring membership to Milwaukee at that time). In 1931, Oliveri got pinched on an illegal alcohol charge and after his release relocated to Racine. Zizzo seems to have been chased out of Racine around 1934, after two men attempted to burn and dynamite his home. In the early 40s, Oliveri was living with the Zizzos in SD; Domenico Zizzo died there in 1945, and based on the SD CI intel it seems that Oliveri shacked up with Zizzo’s widow, Francesca LaLicata after that.

Schmitt also believes that these Racine guys above were tied to the Giovingo faction In Rockford, which he states was tied to Aiello, as opposed to the Musso group in Rockford which Schmitt states was tied to Capone (Musso was of course Tony Lombardo’s BIL, so that would make sense).

Re: Visiting Los Angeles 1963

by B. » Sat Oct 01, 2022 6:20 pm

Yep, that makes way more sense.

There was a "Meonatto Olivero" from Piedmont I mixed him up with. So he wasn't an anomaly in Milwaukee at all and could definitely have been made in Sicily.

Re: Visiting Los Angeles 1963

by PolackTony » Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:17 pm

B. wrote: Sun Sep 04, 2022 7:13 am
B. wrote: Sun Sep 04, 2022 5:56 am - Not an LA member but haven't seen this shelved Milwaukee member mentioned before, interesting story:

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Looked this guy up and he came from Piedmont right on the French border. Seems very unlikely he was made into Cosa Nostra in Italy/Sicily. Also questionable if he would have joined the Camorra in Italy.

They ID him as a Milwaukee member and that Family was almost entirely Sicilian. Says he spent time in Chicago, so maybe he was initially made there. He was in San Diego by 1941.

Wonder what the story is.
Minetto Clementi Oliveri was from Altavilla Milicia. He arrived in Boston in 1922 bound for Chicago, which is exactly where you’d expect him to go as Chicago is basically Nuova Altavilla (lots of other Oliveris from Altavilla in Chicago as well).

Interesting to me that he was apparently a Milwaukee member, as he lived first in Chicago and then Racine, and Racine seems to have basically been Chicago territory (the big 1930 bootlegging case involving Salvatore LoVerde and the Argentos had lots of activity in Racine, for example).

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