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Re: Heroin trafficking

by furiofromnaples » Mon Aug 08, 2022 4:08 am

Ryan98366 wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 9:05 pm
Wiseguy wrote: Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:49 am
furiofromnaples wrote: Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:20 am
Wiseguy wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 2:05 pm
JeremyTheJew wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 1:47 pm I think the ndrnghets sell there drugs to Europe more then the us
No question. Even the LCN-connected Ndrangheta drug cases in NY have typically involved brokering cocaine shipments meant for Europe.
The ndrangheta had locali in the US from the 1980s so doesn't need the help of american wiseguys.
Thank you for stating the obvious but irrelevant, Furio.
The foreigners like Furio and Sonny Blackstein always state the obvious. They have never even been to America.
Ryan98366,if you want to pay me the plane ticket, I certainly don't say no.

Re: Heroin trafficking

by Ryan98366 » Sun Aug 07, 2022 9:05 pm

Wiseguy wrote: Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:49 am
furiofromnaples wrote: Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:20 am
Wiseguy wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 2:05 pm
JeremyTheJew wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 1:47 pm I think the ndrnghets sell there drugs to Europe more then the us
No question. Even the LCN-connected Ndrangheta drug cases in NY have typically involved brokering cocaine shipments meant for Europe.
The ndrangheta had locali in the US from the 1980s so doesn't need the help of american wiseguys.
Thank you for stating the obvious but irrelevant, Furio.
The foreigners like Furio and Sonny Blackstein always state the obvious. They have never even been to America.

Re: Heroin trafficking

by furiofromnaples » Fri Aug 05, 2022 11:14 am

CabriniGreen wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 2:30 am
furiofromnaples wrote: Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:20 am
Wiseguy wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 2:05 pm
JeremyTheJew wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 1:47 pm I think the ndrnghets sell there drugs to Europe more then the us
No question. Even the LCN-connected Ndrangheta drug cases in NY have typically involved brokering cocaine shipments meant for Europe.
The ndrangheta had locali in the US from the 1980s so doesn't need the help of american wiseguys.
What Locali in the US? America for the ndrangheta usually means Canada.....
Frank Archino said in 1977 that there was locali in Albany and New York but shortly after was killed.
The ndrangheta doesnt have the same numbers of rats of the other oc gruops so is difficult to have sure infos.

Re: Heroin trafficking

by CabriniGreen » Fri Aug 05, 2022 2:30 am

As far as I know, only the Ursino tried it.

Re: Heroin trafficking

by CabriniGreen » Fri Aug 05, 2022 2:30 am

furiofromnaples wrote: Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:20 am
Wiseguy wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 2:05 pm
JeremyTheJew wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 1:47 pm I think the ndrnghets sell there drugs to Europe more then the us
No question. Even the LCN-connected Ndrangheta drug cases in NY have typically involved brokering cocaine shipments meant for Europe.
The ndrangheta had locali in the US from the 1980s so doesn't need the help of american wiseguys.
What Locali in the US? America for the ndrangheta usually means Canada.....

Re: Heroin trafficking

by CabriniGreen » Fri Aug 05, 2022 2:28 am

furiofromnaples wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 12:15 pm The Pizza Connection was a partnership between the Sicialians and the Americans but now the big player in drug trade is the ndrangheta that dont need the help of what remain of the american mafia so the american wiseguys sell pills,weed or coke.
Matt Guglielmetti was linked to Dino Guilmette that was arrested for selling pills in Rhode Island.

https://gangsterreport.com/mobbed-up-co ... lielmetti/
I always find statements like this fascinating for 2 reasons...

1. The Americans had an active ban....from the Top, the Commision. Yet it's often presented like they were equal, ACTIVE partners... How do you reconcile that? which brings me to point 2...


2. The emphasis is always... " The Americans don't need drugs". Until you suggest the Sicilians managed the trade... then the Americans suddenly become partners, even as the rank and file are actively banned under punishment of death.



3. "ndrangheta that dont need the help of what remain of the american"....

This is precisely WHY I found BOTH Old and New Bridge so intriguing. In Old Bridge, the Sicilians DID need the Inzerillos contacts, and in New Bridge, the Ursino also accessed Gambino South American contacts. That was particularly interesting, as there are NUMEROUS Calabrian clans embedded in South America, so why not go through any one of them?


I find it seems, when you talk about Sicily or Calabria, some guys hear, " Fuck the Americans"....then the convo goes left....

Re: Heroin trafficking

by Wiseguy » Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:49 am

furiofromnaples wrote: Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:20 am
Wiseguy wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 2:05 pm
JeremyTheJew wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 1:47 pm I think the ndrnghets sell there drugs to Europe more then the us
No question. Even the LCN-connected Ndrangheta drug cases in NY have typically involved brokering cocaine shipments meant for Europe.
The ndrangheta had locali in the US from the 1980s so doesn't need the help of american wiseguys.
Thank you for stating the obvious but irrelevant, Furio.

Re: Heroin trafficking

by furiofromnaples » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:20 am

Wiseguy wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 2:05 pm
JeremyTheJew wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 1:47 pm I think the ndrnghets sell there drugs to Europe more then the us
No question. Even the LCN-connected Ndrangheta drug cases in NY have typically involved brokering cocaine shipments meant for Europe.
The ndrangheta had locali in the US from the 1980s so doesn't need the help of american wiseguys.

Re: Heroin trafficking

by Pmac2 » Wed Aug 03, 2022 7:08 pm

Herion trafficking is controlled by Latinos. The mob in America is out. Maybe they buy off them...

Re: Heroin trafficking

by Wiseguy » Wed Aug 03, 2022 2:05 pm

JeremyTheJew wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 1:47 pm I think the ndrnghets sell there drugs to Europe more then the us
No question. Even the LCN-connected Ndrangheta drug cases in NY have typically involved brokering cocaine shipments meant for Europe.

Re: Heroin trafficking

by JeremyTheJew » Wed Aug 03, 2022 1:47 pm

I think the ndrnghets sell there drugs to Europe more then the us

Studies shows now that Europe is now the cocaine capital- not the USA like in the past.

That being said u have two major suppliers circumstances also majorly change from times like in the 60s/70s/80s and now

Afghanistan / golden triangle is not what it was when they were the lead heroin suppliers

Re: Heroin trafficking

by furiofromnaples » Wed Aug 03, 2022 12:15 pm

The Pizza Connection was a partnership between the Sicialians and the Americans but now the big player in drug trade is the ndrangheta that dont need the help of what remain ofcthe american mafia so the american wiseguys sell pills,weed or coke.
Matt Guglielmetti was linked to Dino Guilmette that was arrested for selling pills in Rhode Island.

https://gangsterreport.com/mobbed-up-co ... lielmetti/

Re: Heroin trafficking

by Little_Al1991 » Wed Aug 03, 2022 6:59 am

Since the Sicilian faction of the Gambino’s have taken over, I’ve read that it has allegedly increased their interest in heroin trafficking but recent indictments against the Gambino Family do not mention heroin

Re: Heroin trafficking

by PolackTony » Sun Jul 31, 2022 9:37 pm

Amershire_Ed wrote: Sun Jul 31, 2022 5:10 pm almost all the heroin is coming in thru Mexico and they’ve got their own ppl in the states to handle the trafficking.
This is the central factor IMO. The networks of international heroin trafficking wouldn’t give any space for the mafia to have any major, high-level trafficking role to any significant degree today. Sure, mob guys don’t want the heat and sentences associated with big narcotics cases. But, even if they were willing to take those risks, I just don’t see a role anywhere approaching Pizza Connection-tier operations as possible for them today. Besides, most of what’s called “heroin” today is just stepped-on fentanyl, essentially. This is a China-to-Mexico-to-US pipeline. There’s no link in that chain that the mob would be in a position to exploit above middle- and lower-level distribution locally.

Re: Heroin trafficking

by Little_Al1991 » Sun Jul 31, 2022 8:55 pm

I think one big factor in guys in the life not really being into heroin seems to be the sentences handed down because of it
Matthew Madonna and Tom Mix Santoro got hit with 20 years, early on in their careers because of it.
An aforementioned reason about most of the heroin coming through Mexico is one of the other likely reasons

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