by Ivan » Thu Apr 21, 2022 11:29 am
Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:54 am
Ivan wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 4:49 am
Cheech wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 4:47 amGood obituary
...and there's plenty more where that came from! The 2020s and 2030s are going to be an absolute apocalypse of aging Italian-American hoods dying off. Going to be a very different New York underworld in 2050.
The Gambinos alone have lost like 20 members in the last 3 years. That is over 10% of their total membership. This will only speed up in the coming years as LCN as a whole continues to age out.
They're supposed to replace guys as they die, right? Is that still even a thing?
When the guys born before 1980 are gone, that's when the Five Families will become irrelevant to the NY underworld IMHO. That's why I always go with 2050 as the End Times, when the youngest of that cohort will be 70.
Well, maybe not, they might adapt somehow. But they'll be at least half as small as they are now.
Amershire_Ed wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:40 am
I thought Jack Garcia made some interesting points on a pod he was on recently. He thinks the Feds have really dropped the ball over the last ten years or so on the mob. He thinks all the families are much stronger now than they are publicly given credit for and the Feds only have enough manpower—from an investigative standpoint— to go after a handful of crews at any given time. The rest can just fly under the radar.
He made a point to say the reduction in violence is the main reason the Feds have backed off (combined with cartels and terrorism taking up all the oxygen), BUT he also thinks the reduction in violence is not something the mob can sustain long term. Unless they morph into straight white collar crime, the lack of violence will ultimately reduce their stature and power. And so while he thinks it’s an effective strategy now, and it’s given them some breathing room, he doesn’t think it can last.
That's interesting. You got a link to this?
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[quote=Ivan post_id=226178 time=1650541789 user_id=64]
[quote=Cheech post_id=226177 time=1650541641 user_id=71]Good obituary[/quote]
...and there's plenty more where that came from! The 2020s and 2030s are going to be an absolute apocalypse of aging Italian-American hoods dying off. Going to be a very different New York underworld in 2050.
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The Gambinos alone have lost like 20 members in the last 3 years. That is over 10% of their total membership. This will only speed up in the coming years as LCN as a whole continues to age out.
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They're supposed to replace guys as they die, right? Is that still even a thing?
When the guys born before 1980 are gone, that's when the Five Families will become irrelevant to the NY underworld IMHO. That's why I always go with 2050 as the End Times, when the youngest of that cohort will be 70.
Well, maybe not, they might adapt somehow. But they'll be at least half as small as they are now.
[quote=Amershire_Ed post_id=226195 time=1650552009 user_id=6179]
I thought Jack Garcia made some interesting points on a pod he was on recently. He thinks the Feds have really dropped the ball over the last ten years or so on the mob. He thinks all the families are much stronger now than they are publicly given credit for and the Feds only have enough manpower—from an investigative standpoint— to go after a handful of crews at any given time. The rest can just fly under the radar.
He made a point to say the reduction in violence is the main reason the Feds have backed off (combined with cartels and terrorism taking up all the oxygen), BUT he also thinks the reduction in violence is not something the mob can sustain long term. Unless they morph into straight white collar crime, the lack of violence will ultimately reduce their stature and power. And so while he thinks it’s an effective strategy now, and it’s given them some breathing room, he doesn’t think it can last.
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That's interesting. You got a link to this?