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Re: GL News 04/07/2022

by Amershire_Ed » Mon Apr 25, 2022 12:49 pm

The other thing Garcia said that was interesting in this interview is that he thinks Puff Daddy is officially on record with Campos and the Gambino’s. He said he wasn’t 100% sure, but he was pretty sure. Take that for what it’s worth.

Re: GL News 04/07/2022

by Amershire_Ed » Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:18 pm

Ivan wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 11:29 am
Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:54 am
Ivan wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 4:49 am
Cheech wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 4:47 amGood obituary
...and there's plenty more where that came from! The 2020s and 2030s are going to be an absolute apocalypse of aging Italian-American hoods dying off. Going to be a very different New York underworld in 2050.

The Gambinos alone have lost like 20 members in the last 3 years. That is over 10% of their total membership. This will only speed up in the coming years as LCN as a whole continues to age out.
They're supposed to replace guys as they die, right? Is that still even a thing?

When the guys born before 1980 are gone, that's when the Five Families will become irrelevant to the NY underworld IMHO. That's why I always go with 2050 as the End Times, when the youngest of that cohort will be 70.

Well, maybe not, they might adapt somehow. But they'll be at least half as small as they are now.
Amershire_Ed wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:40 am I thought Jack Garcia made some interesting points on a pod he was on recently. He thinks the Feds have really dropped the ball over the last ten years or so on the mob. He thinks all the families are much stronger now than they are publicly given credit for and the Feds only have enough manpower—from an investigative standpoint— to go after a handful of crews at any given time. The rest can just fly under the radar.

He made a point to say the reduction in violence is the main reason the Feds have backed off (combined with cartels and terrorism taking up all the oxygen), BUT he also thinks the reduction in violence is not something the mob can sustain long term. Unless they morph into straight white collar crime, the lack of violence will ultimately reduce their stature and power. And so while he thinks it’s an effective strategy now, and it’s given them some breathing room, he doesn’t think it can last.
That's interesting. You got a link to this?
https://open.spotify.com/episode/6EgNwR ... Frd9HOTv6g

Re: GL News 04/07/2022

by Dave65827 » Thu Apr 21, 2022 12:52 pm

We should repeat this conversation to the point where it encompasses every thread and this one goes on for 100 pages

Re: GL News 04/07/2022

by Charlie » Thu Apr 21, 2022 12:44 pm

Cheech wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 12:36 pm Rackets are shrinking.
Recruitment pool shrinking.

The Sopranos was largely about that if you think about it. P

Its just a matter of time.
Salvatore Lucania must be looking down on all of us with great pride.

Re: GL News 04/07/2022

by Cheech » Thu Apr 21, 2022 12:36 pm

Rackets are shrinking.
Recruitment pool shrinking.

The Sopranos was largely about that if you think about it.

Its just a matter of time.

Re: GL News 04/07/2022

by Pogo The Clown » Thu Apr 21, 2022 12:32 pm

Ivan wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 11:29 am They're supposed to replace guys as they die, right? Is that still even a thing?

Yeah they still do it but they are losing members faster than they are able (or willing) to replace them. That is largely what killed off most of the families in the country. Of course this process is much slower with the NY Five.


Pogo

Re: GL News 04/07/2022

by Ivan » Thu Apr 21, 2022 11:29 am

Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:54 am
Ivan wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 4:49 am
Cheech wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 4:47 amGood obituary
...and there's plenty more where that came from! The 2020s and 2030s are going to be an absolute apocalypse of aging Italian-American hoods dying off. Going to be a very different New York underworld in 2050.

The Gambinos alone have lost like 20 members in the last 3 years. That is over 10% of their total membership. This will only speed up in the coming years as LCN as a whole continues to age out.
They're supposed to replace guys as they die, right? Is that still even a thing?

When the guys born before 1980 are gone, that's when the Five Families will become irrelevant to the NY underworld IMHO. That's why I always go with 2050 as the End Times, when the youngest of that cohort will be 70.

Well, maybe not, they might adapt somehow. But they'll be at least half as small as they are now.
Amershire_Ed wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:40 am I thought Jack Garcia made some interesting points on a pod he was on recently. He thinks the Feds have really dropped the ball over the last ten years or so on the mob. He thinks all the families are much stronger now than they are publicly given credit for and the Feds only have enough manpower—from an investigative standpoint— to go after a handful of crews at any given time. The rest can just fly under the radar.

He made a point to say the reduction in violence is the main reason the Feds have backed off (combined with cartels and terrorism taking up all the oxygen), BUT he also thinks the reduction in violence is not something the mob can sustain long term. Unless they morph into straight white collar crime, the lack of violence will ultimately reduce their stature and power. And so while he thinks it’s an effective strategy now, and it’s given them some breathing room, he doesn’t think it can last.
That's interesting. You got a link to this?

Re: GL News 04/07/2022

by SonnyBlackstein » Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:18 am

Thanks for the post.

Re: GL News 04/07/2022

by Dave65827 » Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:12 am

Jesus can’t satisfy any of you guys

Re: GL News 04/07/2022

by Pogo The Clown » Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:54 am

Ivan wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 4:49 am
Cheech wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 4:47 amGood obituary
...and there's plenty more where that came from! The 2020s and 2030s are going to be an absolute apocalypse of aging Italian-American hoods dying off. Going to be a very different New York underworld in 2050.

The Gambinos alone have lost like 20 members in the last 3 years. That is over 10% of their total membership. This will only speed up in the coming years as LCN as a whole continues to age out.


Pogo

Re: GL News 04/07/2022

by Amershire_Ed » Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:40 am

I thought Jack Garcia made some interesting points on a pod he was on recently. He thinks the Feds have really dropped the ball over the last ten years or so on the mob. He thinks all the families are much stronger now than they are publicly given credit for and the Feds only have enough manpower—from an investigative standpoint— to go after a handful of crews at any given time. The rest can just fly under the radar.

He made a point to say the reduction in violence is the main reason the Feds have backed off (combined with cartels and terrorism taking up all the oxygen), BUT he also thinks the reduction in violence is not something the mob can sustain long term. Unless they morph into straight white collar crime, the lack of violence will ultimately reduce their stature and power. And so while he thinks it’s an effective strategy now, and it’s given them some breathing room, he doesn’t think it can last.

Re: GL News 04/07/2022

by Ivan » Thu Apr 21, 2022 6:41 am

Cheech wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 6:10 am
Ivan wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 4:49 am
Cheech wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 4:47 amGood obituary
...and there's plenty more where that came from! The 2020s and 2030s are going to be an absolute apocalypse of aging Italian-American hoods dying off. Going to be a very different New York underworld in 2050.
yup, if there even is one
I wonder if Barney will still be in charge? He's a Genovese guy and will be in his 90s then, and hey it's not without precedent in that family. :lol:

Also, WRT "if there even is one", there will still be a lot of criminals obviously, but I wouldn't be shocked if when the American Cosa Nostra fades away, nothing replaces it. I.e., there will still be criminal gangs, but you won't have the big structured entity with the organization and legit world infiltration.

Re: GL News 04/07/2022

by Cheech » Thu Apr 21, 2022 6:10 am

Ivan wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 4:49 am
Cheech wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 4:47 amGood obituary
...and there's plenty more where that came from! The 2020s and 2030s are going to be an absolute apocalypse of aging Italian-American hoods dying off. Going to be a very different New York underworld in 2050.
yup, if there even is one

Re: GL News 04/07/2022

by Southshore88 » Thu Apr 21, 2022 5:43 am

Thanks for posting

Re: GL News 04/07/2022

by Ivan » Thu Apr 21, 2022 4:49 am

Cheech wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 4:47 amGood obituary
...and there's plenty more where that came from! The 2020s and 2030s are going to be an absolute apocalypse of aging Italian-American hoods dying off. Going to be a very different New York underworld in 2050.

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