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Re: Mobsters killed by other organizations

by Dwalin2014 » Thu Jan 27, 2022 2:49 am

There was also the murder of John Spica in St. Louis in 1979, killed by the Leisure group, although I'm not sure whether he was a made member or an associate at the time.

Re: Mobsters killed by other organizations

by furiofromnaples » Sat Jan 22, 2022 1:38 am

Adam wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 1:06 am
furiofromnaples wrote: Mon Jan 17, 2022 5:06 am May 1972 - Emanuel "Manny" Gambino,the nephew of Carlo Gambino was kidnapped and killed by a kidnapping ring, led by James McBratney;
July 11, 1976 - Frank “Frankie Razz” Randazzo,Nicolo (Nick the Executioner) Ditta and Joe (Siggy) Siragusa killed in self-defense by Ernest (Ernie the Greek) Kanakis;
August 23, 1976 – Cleveland mafia underboss Calogero (Leo Lips) Moceri desappered during the war against the Nardi/Greene faction;
July 28, 1977 - Vincent C. Papa killed in Atlanta prison on order of Herbert Sperling;
December 17, 1981 – Rochester mob capo and labor union leader John (Johnny Flowers) Fiorino is shot-gunned to death outside the Blue Gardenia restaurant by John (Mad Dog) Sullivan in Rochester
Yeah the 1976 Detroit one isn't a different group. It is jus the worst hit gone bad. They were going to kill Kanakis but he pulled his own gun and killed three Detroit mobsters. Kanakis was just a guy.
I sould write "mobsters killed by any non italians guys".

Re: Mobsters killed by other organizations

by Adam » Sat Jan 22, 2022 1:06 am

furiofromnaples wrote: Mon Jan 17, 2022 5:06 am May 1972 - Emanuel "Manny" Gambino,the nephew of Carlo Gambino was kidnapped and killed by a kidnapping ring, led by James McBratney;
July 11, 1976 - Frank “Frankie Razz” Randazzo,Nicolo (Nick the Executioner) Ditta and Joe (Siggy) Siragusa killed in self-defense by Ernest (Ernie the Greek) Kanakis;
August 23, 1976 – Cleveland mafia underboss Calogero (Leo Lips) Moceri desappered during the war against the Nardi/Greene faction;
July 28, 1977 - Vincent C. Papa killed in Atlanta prison on order of Herbert Sperling;
December 17, 1981 – Rochester mob capo and labor union leader John (Johnny Flowers) Fiorino is shot-gunned to death outside the Blue Gardenia restaurant by John (Mad Dog) Sullivan in Rochester
Yeah the 1976 Detroit one isn't a different group. It is jus the worst hit gone bad. They were going to kill Kanakis but he pulled his own gun and killed three Detroit mobsters. Kanakis was just a guy.

Re: Mobsters killed by other organizations

by Bruno187 » Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:27 pm

furiofromnaples wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:18 pm
Bruno187 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:41 am In 1988 Shorty Mascuzzio was killed in self-defense by Al Roth in the basement of Bedrox disco in Manhattan while being beaten in a shakedown attempt. He was never charged in the killing.
Thanks Bruno but in this article is wrote that was David Fisher to kill in self defence Mascuzzio.

https://gangstersinc.org/profiles/blogs ... mily-soldi

The police arrived a little after 2:30 am. They had been called in to investigate a shooting in the basement office of the club. There, they found Fisher severely injured, and Mascuzzio lying on the floor. He had been shot twice, once in the neck and once in the body. He was very dead.Some sources claim Fisher had been pistol-whipped by Mascuzzio because the envelope wasn’t ready. He was carrying a small .32 caliber handgun, which is why Fisher survived the beating. Big, heavy gun might have killed him.
Defending himself, with his own .38 Colt Cobra revolver, he had shot the hoodlum in self-defense.


LOL.....he changed his name.


Pea Nuts in Hell’s Kitchen

Al Roth opened his club, Pea Nuts, later, changing its name to Better Days, at 316 West 49th Street, in 1972. Right in the heart of Hell’s Kitchen, one of the least salubrious districts of Manhattan, an area known then mainly for its strip clubs and rat infestation. Hookers on every corner, addicts wandering in their dreams. Playing a crucial role in establishing house music in New York, the club catered mostly to black people and was packed at weekends.

The cover fee was $3, there was a bar, a disc-jockey booth at one side, and 85% of the area was a dance floor. Some nights, especially Sundays, as many as 1500 people crowded in to listen to the music and dance until they dropped. Mick Jagger, Grace Jones, and other celebrities would visit to let their hair down when visiting the city.

Bruce Forest, a DeeJay who worked there for seven years, remembered when the owner told him, sometime in 1987, that he was changing his name. The little, pork-barrel of a man, who strutted around the club like Jimmy Cagney, said he was now calling himself David Fisher.

“I’m like, “Dude, I’ve seen your license!”

He goes, ‘If anybody asks you, that fuck Al Roth is dead.’

Re: Mobsters killed by other organizations

by furiofromnaples » Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:09 pm

Pogo The Clown wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:38 am The ABC Wars in Rochester were internal LCN disputes.


Pogo
The C faction was made by non-italian associates that fought against the mob,so was something different that a LCN internal dispute.

Re: Mobsters killed by other organizations

by furiofromnaples » Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:18 pm

Bruno187 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:41 am In 1988 Shorty Mascuzzio was killed in self-defense by Al Roth in the basement of Bedrox disco in Manhattan while being beaten in a shakedown attempt. He was never charged in the killing.
Thanks Bruno but in this article is wrote that was David Fisher to kill in self defence Mascuzzio.

https://gangstersinc.org/profiles/blogs ... mily-soldi

The police arrived a little after 2:30 am. They had been called in to investigate a shooting in the basement office of the club. There, they found Fisher severely injured, and Mascuzzio lying on the floor. He had been shot twice, once in the neck and once in the body. He was very dead.Some sources claim Fisher had been pistol-whipped by Mascuzzio because the envelope wasn’t ready. He was carrying a small .32 caliber handgun, which is why Fisher survived the beating. Big, heavy gun might have killed him.
Defending himself, with his own .38 Colt Cobra revolver, he had shot the hoodlum in self-defense.

Re: Mobsters killed by other organizations

by Pogo The Clown » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:38 am

The ABC Wars in Rochester were internal LCN disputes.


Pogo

Re: Mobsters killed by other organizations

by Rocco » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:06 am

furiofromnaples wrote: Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:27 am
Pogo The Clown wrote: Mon Jan 17, 2022 7:57 am Sullivan was an LCN Associate and it was an LCN ordered hit.


Pogo
The order was gave by “C Team” leaders Thomas Torpey and Thomas Taylor. The C Team was made only by non italian associate that fought the A and B teams for the rackets in Rochester.
Or Im wrong?
I always thought Sullivan was a Genovese associate no? So fat Tony sent him

Re: Mobsters killed by other organizations

by Bruno187 » Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:41 am

In 1988 Shorty Mascuzzio was killed in self-defense by Al Roth in the basement of Bedrox disco in Manhattan while being beaten in a shakedown attempt. He was never charged in the killing.

Re: Mobsters killed by other organizations

by davidf1989 » Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:45 am

furiofromnaples wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 12:31 am Any idea on Mikey Puglisi a bonanno soldier killed on order of nicky barnes in 1976?
Here is an article about Nicky Barnes below where it discusses the murder of Mikey Puglisi.

http://theranreport.blogspot.com/2020/0 ... arnes.html

Re: Mobsters killed by other organizations

by furiofromnaples » Wed Jan 19, 2022 12:31 am

Any idea on Mikey Puglisi a bonanno soldier killed on order of nicky barnes in 1976?

Re: Mobsters killed by other organizations

by furiofromnaples » Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:27 am

Pogo The Clown wrote: Mon Jan 17, 2022 7:57 am Sullivan was an LCN Associate and it was an LCN ordered hit.


Pogo
The order was gave by “C Team” leaders Thomas Torpey and Thomas Taylor. The C Team was made only by non italian associate that fought the A and B teams for the rackets in Rochester.
Or Im wrong?

Re: Mobsters killed by other organizations

by furiofromnaples » Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:26 am

May 26, 1925 - Bugs Moran, Vincent "The Schemer" Drucci, and Hymie Weiss shot and wounded Angelo Genna numerous times during a high-speed car chase, causing Genna to crash his car into a lamp post,dying later in hospital. Genna was the boss of his own crime family in Chicago.

July 8, 1925, Tony Genna (Angelo's brother) was asked to meet by one of his friends—Antonio "Cavalero" Spano (aka Giuseppe Nerone.
He agreed, not knowing that the meeting was set up by Drucci and Moran that killed him. The other Genna brothers fled Chicago.

November 13, 1925 - Salvatore "Samoots" Ammatuna, leader of Unione Siciliana and member of Genna gang was killed while sitting at barber chair.

Re: Mobsters killed by other organizations

by Pogo The Clown » Mon Jan 17, 2022 7:57 am

Sullivan was an LCN Associate and it was an LCN ordered hit.


Pogo

Mobsters killed by other organizations

by furiofromnaples » Mon Jan 17, 2022 5:06 am

May 1972 - Emanuel "Manny" Gambino,the nephew of Carlo Gambino was kidnapped and killed by a kidnapping ring, led by James McBratney;
July 11, 1976 - Frank “Frankie Razz” Randazzo,Nicolo (Nick the Executioner) Ditta and Joe (Siggy) Siragusa killed in self-defense by Ernest (Ernie the Greek) Kanakis;
August 23, 1976 – Cleveland mafia underboss Calogero (Leo Lips) Moceri desappered during the war against the Nardi/Greene faction;
July 28, 1977 - Vincent C. Papa killed in Atlanta prison on order of Herbert Sperling;
December 17, 1981 – Rochester mob capo and labor union leader John (Johnny Flowers) Fiorino is shot-gunned to death outside the Blue Gardenia restaurant by John (Mad Dog) Sullivan in Rochester

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