by PolackTony » Tue Jan 04, 2022 9:43 am
Chris Christie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 04, 2022 7:20 am
2 The area of Carroll Gardens and Red Hook was once known as "South Brooklyn" in the early 1900's (BK only became part of NYC in "the great mistake of" 1898.) What was that area known as post-1950's?
There are still old timers who call that area “South Brooklyn”. This is confusing to some as it is nowhere near the southern part of the boro of Brooklyn but it was the southern part of the original town of Brooklyn. The BQE is the divining line between what’s considered Red Hook and Carroll Gardens today, but the BQE was built in the 50s. Prior to that, I believe that Carroll Gardens was thought of as part of Red Hook, and neighborhood people probably carried on thinking of it like that after the expressway was built. “Carroll Gardens” as a separate neighborhood from Red Hook within the old South Brooklyn I think really only took off with gentrification from the 60s onwards.
CC wrote:
3 In Manhattan, E96 down to 34th between 1st and 3rd, is that "the east side" or were distinctions made between neighborhoods on the map like East Village and Midtown?
From E96 down to E59 is the UES. There were/are distinct sub neighborhoods within the UES, such as Lenox Hill and Yorkville (which in the time period that you’re interested in was a major German community). Below 59 is Turtle Bay, Murray Hill, Midtown East.
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2 The area of Carroll Gardens and Red Hook was once known as "South Brooklyn" in the early 1900's (BK only became part of NYC in "the great mistake of" 1898.) What was that area known as post-1950's?
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There are still old timers who call that area “South Brooklyn”. This is confusing to some as it is nowhere near the southern part of the boro of Brooklyn but it was the southern part of the original town of Brooklyn. The BQE is the divining line between what’s considered Red Hook and Carroll Gardens today, but the BQE was built in the 50s. Prior to that, I believe that Carroll Gardens was thought of as part of Red Hook, and neighborhood people probably carried on thinking of it like that after the expressway was built. “Carroll Gardens” as a separate neighborhood from Red Hook within the old South Brooklyn I think really only took off with gentrification from the 60s onwards.
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3 In Manhattan, E96 down to 34th between 1st and 3rd, is that "the east side" or were distinctions made between neighborhoods on the map like East Village and Midtown?
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From E96 down to E59 is the UES. There were/are distinct sub neighborhoods within the UES, such as Lenox Hill and Yorkville (which in the time period that you’re interested in was a major German community). Below 59 is Turtle Bay, Murray Hill, Midtown East.