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"I cut off Semerari's head, he had betrayed our agreement"
by ELIO SCRIBANI
The revelations of Ammaturo: for me Bardellino is alive
Four adjectives for him: gentle, calm, measured, elegant. You would say a pensioner, a father of a family, an ordinary man. You would not imagine that he was, instead, a ferocious godfather of the Camorra and that he has a long chain of murders on his conscience. His name has marked the history of the Neapolitan underworld. His name is Umberto Ammaturo.
He was a head of the "Nuova Famiglia" and a boss of international drug trafficking, he fought a clan war against Raffaele Cutolo's NCO that left seven hundred corpses on the field. He was the partner of Pupetta Maresca, the widow of "Pascalone 'from Nola".
In this exclusive interview, the former boss and collaborator of justice retraces the dark events of the Camorra. And he makes sensational revelations.
One even chilling: it was he himself who cut off the head of the criminologist Aldo Semerari and deposited it in front of the castle of Cutolo in Ottaviano. The interview takes place in a protected location.
Umberto Ammaturo, do you think the boss Antonio Bardellino is alive or is he dead?
"I've already told the authorities: I don't think Bardellino is dead".
Does he mean he's alive?
"He is missing, killed in Brazil, if I am not mistaken, but the body was never found. Whoever kills, especially in the case of Bardellino, has an interest in having the body found to prove that he was killed".
Let's talk about Raffaele Cutolo. What do you remember about him?
"Crime is pathology, but Cutolo is pathological for himself. If it were not so, he would have taken the path that all the lbosses of the time took, Ammaturo, Alfieri, Galasso and so on."
Does he mean the path of collaboration with the justice?
"Yes, because beyond what one felt inside when decided to totally change existence, collaboration is also a technical choice".
And what do you remember of Donna Rosetta, Cutolo's sister?
"Nothing, a woman like the others that he involved and forced to be the bearer of his orders".
What were the relations between the Camorra and politics at that time?
"Personally, I have not received favoritism either from lawyers or from magistrates or from policemen, I have always been captured and convicted. From what I read in the newspapers, there were entanglements, but the rotten apple can be found in every sack".
Let's talk about the kidnapping of the former regional councilor for public works, the Christian Democrat Ciro Cirillo, which took place on the April 28,1983, do you think there are still mysteries to be revealed?
"I don't dare to speculate,I abstain".
And about the death of the criminologist Semerari?
"I cut off his head."
Did he personally kill him?
"Yes, because he had pledged with us in the New Family to look after our things, and he was well paid by me personally, but Cutolo had someone killed in the security rooms of the court and Semerari gave him a false report to get him acquitted".
Did she consider him a traitor?
"He was a traitor, whoever takes an agreement and doesn't keep it is a traitor. We're talking about the criminal world, aren't we?"
Let's talk about your clan, how many men did you control?
"I was with one foot in Italy and another in South America, I had men here and there who were going back and forth. About thirty".
How did he choose them?
"We took them as drug mules, then, if someone stood out , we made him commit something".
A murder?
"A murder, in short, an action, and from that moment on he was no longer a mule but he became part of the family".
Has he ever been afraid of being betrayed by one of his men?
"Whoever betrayed has been killed".
And were you afraid of being killed too?
"It was happening, but someone failed and was killed."
So, have they tried?
"Mainly Pasquale Forino".
Was he one of the your most trusted man?
"Exactly".
And he tried to kill you?
"Yes, because he wanted to take my place."
Does he tell me the story with Pupetta Maresca?
"We met with Miss Maresca".
In 1970?
"A little before '70, in '66 or '67, and we got together, we had two children, then it happened that they arrested me, I had to tell the truth about facts in which his brother was also involved and from there the break has come. "
So, is the story over for his revelations involving Pupetta Maresca's family?
"Yes, but also because of my long absences. I left the judicial asylum in 81, where I was pretending to be crazy, after a year I was arrested, in 1987 I left due to expiry of the terms, I went to South America, I met another woman from which I had three children ".
The last time you were arrested in Peru, did you lead a luxurious life as a fugitive?
"Well luxurious, it was a rhythm of life".
Is it true that in Lima you were a financial advisor to three private clinics and managed your own real estate company?
"It is true".
It is said that she escaped from the prison in Brasilia by going out through the main door. Was it really like that?
"They opened the cell for us at night, a helicopter was waiting for us, we crossed the Amazon and I was deposited in Peru".
How important was corruption while she was on the run?
"In South America a lot, here in Italy we don't really talk about it".
How much money was involved in drug trafficking?
"Billions of lire. In fact, the judicial authority has seized billions of old lire from me in Naples and also in South America".
Are you now a poor man?
"I am a man who has been working and paying taxes to the state for twelve or thirteen years. I have my income."
So, does he live off his work?
"I live off my job and pay taxes to the state. The authorities can confirm this."
Do you believe in God?
"I believe in God, I believe in a supreme being, but I don't believe in all this ... wheel."
Is the relationship with his conscience today peaceful?
"I've been calm, yes, for fifteen years now."
What about the past?
"I would be a hypocrite if I said that I am really calm. And what: have I absolved myself?".
What is your opinion of that past?
"If we had had the opportunity, as I do today with my children, to guide and follow them ... no one is born with crime in their blood, we become criminals".
What do you think of "Gomorra", the book written by Roberto Saviano?
"That's fine for public opinion, but the police are the ones who bring about the destruction of the underworld."
Do you have a message to give to young people who are attracted by the Camorra?
"The most concrete message should be given by the state".