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Re: 1 year since Anthony Casso passed away

by Southshore88 » Sun Dec 26, 2021 10:36 am

Wiseguy wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 10:25 am
TallGuy19 wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 10:04 am
Southshore88 wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 9:00 am
Wiseguy wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 9:20 pm
jmack wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 7:53 pm
Wiseguy wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 7:05 pm
jmack wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 5:53 pm
Wiseguy wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:32 pm You've seen how these Italians work. For the most part it's OK. Get them cornered and you're dealing with nothing more than an animal.
Tony will pay. He’s a wealthy man…
Minus assets, I'd say under six.
Come on, he’s a boss.
Eh...he spends it as fast as he makes it. In one hand and out the other. That boat of his, no resale value whatsoever.
Is Hesh saying under $6M or $600k? If Hesh is referring to Tony’s cash (hence minus assets), I think it’s more likely to be $600k?
I would guess $6 million. He was laundering a couple hundred thousand dollars at a time with the Russian guy (can't remember his name), and he gave his lawyer a duffel bag with $400,000 in it when he went on the lam. We also know that he spent lavishly on everything from medical bills to gambling, so it's hard to imagine it would only be $600,000.
It was $600,000.

Remember Hesh was referring to how much Tony had "minus assets," i.e. his house, cars, boat, other real estate, his no show job w/Barone Sanitation, etc. Tony didn't just have $6 million in liquid cash laying around. If he did, Hesh and his son wouldn't have been having that conversation in the first place.

For comparison purposes, look at Johnny Sac. After he was arrested, his lawyer said the feds estimated his total net worth at $5 million. In addition to the $180,000 he had stashed in Boca Raton under his father's name, they listed his cash and portfolios with Fidelity and Vanguard, his 401k and severance parachute from Essany Scaffolding, his condo in Deal Beach at $450,000, the Maserati, Ginny's Yukon, and their house and its contents valued at $1.2 million.
Agree. This is also a guess by Hesh, so not an accurate number but a ballpark from an associate (albeit a long-time, high level associate even if he was not as close as he used to be in earlier seasons).

Tony would have used that money he laundered through those offshore accounts for the purpose of buying assets with clean money that the govt would have difficulty touching. If he was sitting on that cash, he would not be paying 10% (or whatever the number would be) to just have $6M in clean cash sitting on hand.

Re: 1 year since Anthony Casso passed away

by Wiseguy » Sun Dec 26, 2021 10:25 am

TallGuy19 wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 10:04 am
Southshore88 wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 9:00 am
Wiseguy wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 9:20 pm
jmack wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 7:53 pm
Wiseguy wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 7:05 pm
jmack wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 5:53 pm
Wiseguy wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:32 pm You've seen how these Italians work. For the most part it's OK. Get them cornered and you're dealing with nothing more than an animal.
Tony will pay. He’s a wealthy man…
Minus assets, I'd say under six.
Come on, he’s a boss.
Eh...he spends it as fast as he makes it. In one hand and out the other. That boat of his, no resale value whatsoever.
Is Hesh saying under $6M or $600k? If Hesh is referring to Tony’s cash (hence minus assets), I think it’s more likely to be $600k?
I would guess $6 million. He was laundering a couple hundred thousand dollars at a time with the Russian guy (can't remember his name), and he gave his lawyer a duffel bag with $400,000 in it when he went on the lam. We also know that he spent lavishly on everything from medical bills to gambling, so it's hard to imagine it would only be $600,000.
It was $600,000.

Remember Hesh was referring to how much Tony had "minus assets," i.e. his house, cars, boat, other real estate, his no show job w/Barone Sanitation, etc. Tony didn't just have $6 million in liquid cash laying around. If he did, Hesh and his son wouldn't have been having that conversation in the first place.

For comparison purposes, look at Johnny Sac. After he was arrested, his lawyer said the feds estimated his total net worth at $5 million. In addition to the $180,000 he had stashed in Boca Raton under his father's name, they listed his cash and portfolios with Fidelity and Vanguard, his 401k and severance parachute from Essany Scaffolding, his condo in Deal Beach at $450,000, the Maserati, Ginny's Yukon, and their house and its contents valued at $1.2 million.

Re: 1 year since Anthony Casso passed away

by Pogo The Clown » Sun Dec 26, 2021 10:13 am

We know he doesn't have that Don Corleone money.


Pogo

Re: 1 year since Anthony Casso passed away

by TallGuy19 » Sun Dec 26, 2021 10:04 am

Southshore88 wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 9:00 am
Wiseguy wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 9:20 pm
jmack wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 7:53 pm
Wiseguy wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 7:05 pm
jmack wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 5:53 pm
Wiseguy wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:32 pm You've seen how these Italians work. For the most part it's OK. Get them cornered and you're dealing with nothing more than an animal.
Tony will pay. He’s a wealthy man…
Minus assets, I'd say under six.
Come on, he’s a boss.
Eh...he spends it as fast as he makes it. In one hand and out the other. That boat of his, no resale value whatsoever.
Is Hesh saying under $6M or $600k? If Hesh is referring to Tony’s cash (hence minus assets), I think it’s more likely to be $600k?
I would guess $6 million. He was laundering a couple hundred thousand dollars at a time with the Russian guy (can't remember his name), and he gave his lawyer a duffel bag with $400,000 in it when he went on the lam. We also know that he spent lavishly on everything from medical bills to gambling, so it's hard to imagine it would only be $600,000.

Re: 1 year since Anthony Casso passed away

by Southshore88 » Sun Dec 26, 2021 9:00 am

Wiseguy wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 9:20 pm
jmack wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 7:53 pm
Wiseguy wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 7:05 pm
jmack wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 5:53 pm
Wiseguy wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:32 pm You've seen how these Italians work. For the most part it's OK. Get them cornered and you're dealing with nothing more than an animal.
Tony will pay. He’s a wealthy man…
Minus assets, I'd say under six.
Come on, he’s a boss.
Eh...he spends it as fast as he makes it. In one hand and out the other. That boat of his, no resale value whatsoever.
Is Hesh saying under $6M or $600k? If Hesh is referring to Tony’s cash (hence minus assets), I think it’s more likely to be $600k?

Re: 1 year since Anthony Casso passed away

by Wiseguy » Sat Dec 25, 2021 9:20 pm

jmack wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 7:53 pm
Wiseguy wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 7:05 pm
jmack wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 5:53 pm
Wiseguy wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:32 pm You've seen how these Italians work. For the most part it's OK. Get them cornered and you're dealing with nothing more than an animal.
Tony will pay. He’s a wealthy man…
Minus assets, I'd say under six.
Come on, he’s a boss.
Eh...he spends it as fast as he makes it. In one hand and out the other. That boat of his, no resale value whatsoever.

Re: 1 year since Anthony Casso passed away

by jmack » Sat Dec 25, 2021 7:53 pm

Wiseguy wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 7:05 pm
jmack wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 5:53 pm
Wiseguy wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:32 pm You've seen how these Italians work. For the most part it's OK. Get them cornered and you're dealing with nothing more than an animal.
Tony will pay. He’s a wealthy man…
Minus assets, I'd say under six.
Come on, he’s a boss.

Re: 1 year since Anthony Casso passed away

by Wiseguy » Sat Dec 25, 2021 7:05 pm

jmack wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 5:53 pm
Wiseguy wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:32 pm You've seen how these Italians work. For the most part it's OK. Get them cornered and you're dealing with nothing more than an animal.
Tony will pay. He’s a wealthy man…
Minus assets, I'd say under six.

Re: 1 year since Anthony Casso passed away

by jmack » Sat Dec 25, 2021 5:53 pm

Wiseguy wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:32 pm You've seen how these Italians work. For the most part it's OK. Get them cornered and you're dealing with nothing more than an animal.
Tony will pay. He’s a wealthy man…

Re: 1 year since Anthony Casso passed away

by Wiseguy » Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:32 pm

You've seen how these Italians work. For the most part it's OK. Get them cornered and you're dealing with nothing more than an animal.

Re: 1 year since Anthony Casso passed away

by PolackTony » Thu Dec 23, 2021 2:36 pm

Pogo The Clown wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:33 pm The above was a line from the Sopranos for those missed it.


Pogo
It was an excellent reference. You’re like Rainman with these friggin references (I mean that as a compliment).

Davey Scatino was right, of course. Your typical citizen has no idea what it’s like to be face to face with a vicious killer. Until they find themselves in that unfortunate situation.

Re: 1 year since Anthony Casso passed away

by eboli » Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:41 pm

Pogo The Clown wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:33 pm The above was a line from the Sopranos for those missed it.


Pogo
Balls is you look a guy in the eye while you jam an ice pick through his lung.

Re: 1 year since Anthony Casso passed away

by Pogo The Clown » Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:33 pm

The above was a line from the Sopranos for those missed it.


Pogo

Re: 1 year since Anthony Casso passed away

by Pogo The Clown » Fri Dec 17, 2021 10:27 am

PolackTony wrote: Fri Dec 17, 2021 9:29 am
eboli wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 1:59 pm
TallGuy19 wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 10:13 pm
Pmac2 wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:40 pm that guys interview with ed bradley is unnerving. he makes sammy gravano look like a saint. casso really was a deranged sicko just look at his eyes and the smile talking about the killing of hydell. vic made a poor choice in putting casso in a positon of power. vic made alot of mistakes
You can see that empathy and compassion are foreign concepts to him. Most sociopaths learn to mimic human emotion—when someone dies, they know they're supposed to feel sad about it, so they learn how to feign sadness. But in Casso's case, it's like he's so sociopathic that it doesn't even occur to him that he should feel sad about killing innocent people. The only time he can muster up any sort of emotion is when it comes to his own situation and how "unfairly" the government treated him.
Casso has the 'classic' emotionless sociopathic stare in 99% of the photos I've seen of him. His face is like a blank page.


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Dead eyes. I’ve known more than a few killers over the years; they stare right through/past you.

You got no idea what ‘dead-eyes’ means until you face these people in your bathrobe and flip-flops.


Pogo

Re: 1 year since Anthony Casso passed away

by PolackTony » Fri Dec 17, 2021 9:29 am

eboli wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 1:59 pm
TallGuy19 wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 10:13 pm
Pmac2 wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:40 pm that guys interview with ed bradley is unnerving. he makes sammy gravano look like a saint. casso really was a deranged sicko just look at his eyes and the smile talking about the killing of hydell. vic made a poor choice in putting casso in a positon of power. vic made alot of mistakes
You can see that empathy and compassion are foreign concepts to him. Most sociopaths learn to mimic human emotion—when someone dies, they know they're supposed to feel sad about it, so they learn how to feign sadness. But in Casso's case, it's like he's so sociopathic that it doesn't even occur to him that he should feel sad about killing innocent people. The only time he can muster up any sort of emotion is when it comes to his own situation and how "unfairly" the government treated him.
Casso has the 'classic' emotionless sociopathic stare in 99% of the photos I've seen of him. His face is like a blank page.


534637.jpg
Dead eyes. I’ve known more than a few killers over the years; they stare right through/past you.

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