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Weren’t the Torregrossas shelved by the 1980s?

Robert Grillo and the Torregrossas were members of Aurello's crew.

Joseph Delmonico was with Gaggi's crew.

Louis 'Red' Giardina was a member of Traina's crew. Another member with this crew by the early 1960s was Pietro Giallombardo. If still alive, he would have probably with this crew.

Joseph Corrao was not a Capodecina. He and his brother August reported to Paul Castellano.

Peter Castellano / Castellana was with Paul Gambino's crew. Strong likelihood that John Riccobono took over that crew, so you can add Castellana to suspected Riccobono crew.

Frank Bucheano (ph) was with Dongarra's (now Gagliardi) crew by 1963. He might have been deceased by 1980.

Leonardo Grillo was with Zappi.

Gaetano Russo had at least 7 daughters so between that and his generic last name it's going to be hard to nail down which son-in-law it might be referring to unless it's someone we already know.

The MF reference was because there was a file where twenty two captains were listed (exact same 22 as the santantonio report) and even included "Frank Diago" (butchered reference to Dave Amodeo) so 99% chance those 22 on MF were from this report. I mentioned that so there wouldn' tbe confusion over why Gaetano Russo doesn't fit the name (Don Russo is one of the 22 on MF), additionally the redacted name was also active in Bklyn.

There were a couple of Joseph Russos who were made, the redacted name fits "Joe Russo" but I'm not sure he is the person referenced here.

bn wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2023 1:57 pm

B. wrote: ↑Sat May 20, 2023 10:33 pm Another likely member at this time was Salvatore Franco Sr. (1906-1990), father of member Salvatore Jr. and son-in-law of Domenico Arcuri.

In the 1960s Freddy Santantonio said Domenico Arcuri's son-in-law was a made member under him and Michael DiLeonardo was also told the Francos went back in the Family before the ones we know.

Arcuri's other son-in-law was Frank Ginex (Ginexi) who despite his strange name had heritage in Santo Stefano Quisquina and had lived in Tampa along with NYC like the Arcuris and Francos. It's more likely that Salvatore Franco Sr. was who Santantonio was referring to though.

Are you sure Santantonio meant Arcuri, just wondering, because in the FBI report it appears that the capo who Santantonio said had a son in law under him was Gaetano Russo (#14 in the report, with 9 made men)

In the report, the captains' names are more toward the left, while the guys named under him were "in the middle" ish of the page. In a MF file an informant named a "Don Russo" as a capo, the informant is 99% santantonio, so the name above the son-in-law info is probably tom russo, aka Gaetano Russo.

I was referring to this but now that you mention it, it does look like a short redacted captain name is in between:



Based on what DiLeonardo said I do believe Salvatore Franco Sr. is a probable member (for other reasons too) but in this case the report does seem to refer to someone else. Thanks for pointing that out.

Any idea who Tom Russo's son-in-law was?

B. wrote: ↑Sat May 20, 2023 10:33 pm Another likely member at this time was Salvatore Franco Sr. (1906-1990), father of member Salvatore Jr. and son-in-law of Domenico Arcuri.

In the 1960s Freddy Santantonio said Domenico Arcuri's son-in-law was a made member under him and Michael DiLeonardo was also told the Francos went back in the Family before the ones we know.

Arcuri's other son-in-law was Frank Ginex (Ginexi) who despite his strange name had heritage in Santo Stefano Quisquina and had lived in Tampa along with NYC like the Arcuris and Francos. It's more likely that Salvatore Franco Sr. was who Santantonio was referring to though.

Are you sure Santantonio meant Arcuri, just wondering, because in the FBI report it appears that the capo who Santantonio said had a son in law under him was Gaetano Russo (#14 in the report, with 9 made men)

In the report, the captains' names are more toward the left, while the guys named under him were "in the middle" ish of the page. In a MF file an informant named a "Don Russo" as a capo, the informant is 99% santantonio, so the name above the son-in-law info is probably tom russo, aka Gaetano Russo.

Another likely member at this time was Salvatore Franco Sr. (1906-1990), father of member Salvatore Jr. and son-in-law of Domenico Arcuri.

In the 1960s Freddy Santantonio said Domenico Arcuri's son-in-law was a made member under him and Michael DiLeonardo was also told the Francos went back in the Family before the ones we know.

Arcuri's other son-in-law was Frank Ginex (Ginexi) who despite his strange name had heritage in Santo Stefano Quisquina and had lived in Tampa along with NYC like the Arcuris and Francos. It's more likely that Salvatore Franco Sr. was who Santantonio was referring to though.

Angelo Santino wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 1:20 pm

HairyKnuckles wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 7:59 am Btw, it doesn´t appear all the Moscas were in same crew. Ralph Mosca (for example) was under Frank Rizzo who headed a crew later taken over by (probably) Nicholas Melillo. All East Harlem Gambino guys were under Rizzo or Napolitano. Melillo was originally from East Harlem.

Question, has anyone ever tried to correct the 1963 chart w added names and attempted to divide the soldiers into crews? Is such a thing possible? I ask because there's overlap with 1980 names.

Currently me and another forum member are trying to divide the soldiers into crews. It seems that most members can be crewed up and we have some guys listed as suspected in some crews.

This is John Riccobono and Gaetano's son Joe Russo:

Angelo, JD found two names that perhaps should be listed on this chart.

- Joseph Russo; active in Queens, co owner of Villa Russo, died in 1986

- Joseph Cosmo Russo; son of Gaetano Russo, was confirmed made after his death in 1991, member of John Riccobono´s/Frank DeCicco´s/George DeCicco´s crew.

No info if these two were made by 1980, but you could put an asterix in front of their names.

InCamelot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 1:47 pm

bn wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:26 pm These were the soldiers under Joe Zingaro


1. Frank LoCascio (1932) 'Frankie Loc'
2. John DeGregorio (1910) 'Big John'
3. Felice Teti (1914) 'Little Phil'
4. Frank Mastroiacova (1914) 'Rummy'
5. James Massi (1908) 'Jimmy Ward'
6. Rocco Mazzi (1916) 'Rogie' (Already Listed)
7. Anthony Porcelli (1929) 'Porky' (Already Listed)
8. Aniello Mancuso (1930) 'Wahoo'
9. Frank Fiumara (1912) 'F. F.'
10. Robert Guippone (1930) 'Sonny'

Half of the names came from LCNBios, the other half from Nasabeak (#2, #5, #6, #8)

Peter 'Petey Bull' Baratta (1910) was under Frank 'Wops' Gagliardi (Thanks to Nasabeak).

Sorry if was this answered elsewhere, but did Frankie Loc and Wahoo Mancuso end up with their own separate crews?

I believe after Joe Zingaro went away in 1986 Frankie Loc took over, and by the 1990s Aniello Mancuso became official or acting capo. I think I've seen source somewhere say that Loc took over for Mascia but I don't believe Mascia was a capo.

bn wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:26 pm These were the soldiers under Joe Zingaro


1. Frank LoCascio (1932) 'Frankie Loc'
2. John DeGregorio (1910) 'Big John'
3. Felice Teti (1914) 'Little Phil'
4. Frank Mastroiacova (1914) 'Rummy'
5. James Massi (1908) 'Jimmy Ward'
6. Rocco Mazzi (1916) 'Rogie' (Already Listed)
7. Anthony Porcelli (1929) 'Porky' (Already Listed)
8. Aniello Mancuso (1930) 'Wahoo'
9. Frank Fiumara (1912) 'F. F.'
10. Robert Guippone (1930) 'Sonny'

Half of the names came from LCNBios, the other half from Nasabeak (#2, #5, #6, #8)

Peter 'Petey Bull' Baratta (1910) was under Frank 'Wops' Gagliardi (Thanks to Nasabeak).

Sorry if was this answered elsewhere, but did Frankie Loc and Wahoo Mancuso end up with their own separate crews?

Crew affiliation undetermined.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

*CHARLES JOSEPH ALAIMO (1942)
*JOHN JAMES ALLU (1918)
DIEGO "PAPA DAVE" AMADEO (1893)
JAMES "JIMMY DANO" ANDROLINI (1922)
PIETRO ANGELO (1915?)

5
HARRY ARDUINI (1924)
LOUIS ANTHONY "LOUIE THE GIMP" AVITABILE (1911)
MICHAEL "MIKEY BULL" BARATTA (1904)
PETER "PETEY BULL" BARATTA (1911)
VINCENT "JIMMY BALLS" BELTEMPO (1935)
10
JOHN BERNARDO (1904)
JOHN JOSEPH BIONDO (1905 or 1912)
PAUL BONADIO (1903)
SALVATORE "BULL" BONFRISCO (1911)
MICHAEL ANGELO "MICKEY" BOVE (1913)
15
JOHNNY "CONNECTICUT" BUSSO (1899) (possibly dead)
*JOHN "JOHNNY CASH" CASABLANCA (1942)
*IGNATIUS CRACHIOLA (1919)
MATTHEW "JOE" CUOMO (1905)
ANTHONY R. CUSIMANO (1927)
20
ALEX "THE POPE" D´ALESSIO (1914)
JOHN "JOHNNY D" D´ALESSIO (1912)
JOHN "BALDY" DANIELLO (1921)
*ANELLO DEGREGORIO (1899)
JOHN J. DEGREGORIO (1910)
25
JOHN ALBERT DEMATTEO (1916)
IGNATIUS DIBELLA (1922)
JOSEPH DIBONO (1900)
ALEXANDER DIBRIZZI (1892)
*ANTHONY GAGLIARDO (1919)
30
NICHOLAS GIALELLA (1904)
SALVATORE VINCENT GIARDINA (1921)
LIBORIO "BERTIE" GRILLO (1910)
FRANK INSERNIA (1915)
PASQUALE LAURO (1915)
35
JOHN "CHUT" LINARDI (1908)
JOSEPH LOMBARDI (1940)
JOSEPH PAUL LOPICCOLO (1918)
EMANUEL RALPH "MANNY" LOPORTO (1920)
PHILIP "SKINNY PHIL" LOSCALZO (1915)
40
ANIELLO "NEIL, WAHOO" MANCUSO (1930)
GENNARO "JERRY" MANCUSO (1926)
GERLANDO MANCUSO (1914)
JAMES LEO "JIMMY WARD" MASSI (1908)
*SALVATORE MANGIALINO (1937)
45
JOHN MINGOIA (1923)
FRANK JOSEPH MOCCARDI (1917)
FRANK "FRANKIE BLAIR" MORANO (1914)
ALFONSO LOUIS "FUNZI" MOSCA Sr (1913)
PETER MOSCA (1933)
50
RALPH "RALPHIE BONES" MOSCA (1910)
FRANK ANTHONY "BIG FRANK" PANNIZZO (1919)
GIOCCHINO "DANDY JACK" PARISI (1899)
FRANK ANTHONY "BIG FRANK" PASQUA (1923)
MICHAEL PINETTI (1912)
55
*SALVATORE "SAM THE BAKER" PISELLO (1923)
DAVID "LITTLE DAVIE" RAVA (1935)
NICHOLAS RESITANO (1910) (possibly dead)
JOHN "SONNY" RICCOBONO (1939)
GASPARE ROMANO (?)
60
FRANK "FRANKIE RENO" RUGGIERO (1913)
PATRICK J. RUSSO (1916)
JOHN VINCENT SANTORO Sr (1918)
GIACOMO "JACK" SCALISE (1902)
GIOVANNI "JOHN" SCALISE (1899) (In Italy; possibly dead)
65
ANGELO FRANK SCARPULLA (1916)
JOHN SCIASCIA (1903)
ALBERT SERU (1906)
SALVATORE SPATOLA (?)
ALFONSO SPITALERI (1931)
70
PETER SALVATORE "LITTLE PETE" TAMBONE (1920)
JAMES STASSI (1916) (possibly dead)
*ANTHONY TASSONE (1925)
FERDINAND "FREDDY" TESTA (1916)
ANDREW TORREGROSSA Jr (1925) - Shelved
75
ANDREW TORREGROSSA Sr (1892) - Shelved
JOHN TORREGROSSA (1919) - Shelved
SALVATORE "TODDO MACK" TRAPANI (1913)
ANTHONY ZANGARA (1924)
*ANTHONY "TEE ZEE" ZANGOGLIA (1924)
80
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Salvatore 'Toddo Mack' Trapani was dead
Torregrossas were most likely with Pete Ferrara-Salvatore Aurello
Peter 'Little Pete' Tambone under Joseph LaForte by 1983
Salvatore Spatola with Joseph Gambino
Alfonso Spitaleri I believe w/ Pat Conte
Albert 'Little Al' Seru likely with Joe Piney Armone
Scalise brothers with Rudolph Pipolo
John Albert DeMatteo with Rudolph Pipolo
John Vincent Santoro possible Riccobono crew
Frank 'Frankie Reno' Ruggiero with Zappi crew
John 'Sonny' Riccobono likely w/ his fathers crew
Nicholas Resitano with Jimmy Brown if still alive
Ralph 'Ralphie Bones' Mosca with Anthony 'Tony Baker' Napolitano's crew and was his acting captain.
Frank 'Big Frank' Pasqua very likely Zingaro Crew
Frank Morano with Zappi I think HK already said
Alfonso Mosca likely with Nicola Melillo or Tony Napolitano
Frank Joseph Moccardi with Napolitano but I think he was dead by 1980
Salvatore Mangialino was with Joseph 'Joe Butch' Corrao, but I believe Corrao was reporting direct to Castellano at this time
James 'Jimmy Ward' Massi with Joseph Zingaro
Aniello 'Neil; Wahoo' Mancuso with Joseph Zingaro
Gennaro Mancuso probably also with Zingaro
Philip 'Skinny Phil' LoScalzo with Joseph Gambinio
Joseph Paul LoPiccolo I believe was dead by 1980
Pasquale Lauro possibly with Jimmy Brown
Salvatore Vincent Giardina with Mario Traina
Nicholas Gialella possibly with Zingaro
Aniello DeGregorio with Joseph 'The Cat' LaForte
Salvatore 'Bull' Bonfrisco probably with Zingaro
Louis 'Louie The Gimp' Avitabile probably with Zingaro
Johnny Busso probably with Piney Armone. He was still alive as of 1968, not sure as of 1980. JD does not have him on dead list 1958-1975.
John 'Baldie' Daniello likely with either Melillo or Napolitano
Peter 'Petey The Bull' Baratta with Piney Armone.
Vincent Amato with Joseph LaForte by 1983

According to Information in Anthony 'Tony Baker' Napolitano's (80y) FBI File, Ralph 'Ralphie Bones' Mosca (70y) was his acting captain by mid 1980.

Joel- how do you find this stuff? amazing