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Re: Vic Amuso loyalists

by Ivan » Mon Nov 15, 2021 8:31 pm

newera_212 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:54 am Jimmy Calandra talks about Frank Papagni in his videos semi-frequently - Brooklyn guy, apparently went by the nickname Frankie Sharp and was a big pot dealer (or extortioner of pot dealers). I feel like Frank Gioa, Jr. said Papagni was a cousin of his and that's how he got into the Luccheses
Thanks for the info! Really hard to find anything about Bones.

Re: Vic Amuso loyalists

by newera_212 » Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:54 am

Jimmy Calandra talks about Frank Papagni in his videos semi-frequently - Brooklyn guy, apparently went by the nickname Frankie Sharp and was a big pot dealer (or extortioner of pot dealers). I feel like Frank Gioa, Jr. said Papagni was a cousin of his and that's how he got into the Luccheses

Re: Vic Amuso loyalists

by Nurzhamba » Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:35 pm

What happened to James Galione? He was in the crew of George Conte, he was also identified by Di Leonardo in a documentary film as an active guy. He also made good money selling crack.

Re: Vic Amuso loyalists

by johnny_scootch » Sun Nov 14, 2021 12:05 pm

OcSleeper wrote: ↑Sun Nov 14, 2021 11:42 am
johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Sun Nov 14, 2021 4:34 am Where did you get that bit of info from? That once he was off paper he could take the AB spot from DeSantis? Which episode did Pennisi say that? I’d like to go back and listen.
It was a few months back but it doesn't really matter now since they nuked all their videos.
Ahhh thanks for the heads up.
Apologies to Little Al.

Re: Vic Amuso loyalists

by OcSleeper » Sun Nov 14, 2021 11:42 am

johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Sun Nov 14, 2021 4:34 am Where did you get that bit of info from? That once he was off paper he could take the AB spot from DeSantis? Which episode did Pennisi say that? I’d like to go back and listen.
It was a few months back but it doesn't really matter now since they nuked all their videos.

Re: Vic Amuso loyalists

by Ivan » Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:38 am

Papagni seems to be a real sleeper. It sounds like he was an important guy but at the same time there's not much out there about him and I've only seen like one blurry picture of him.

Re: Vic Amuso loyalists

by johnny_scootch » Sun Nov 14, 2021 4:34 am

Little_Al1991 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:07 pm
johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:43 am
Little_Al1991 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 12, 2021 7:46 am
moneyman wrote: ↑Fri Nov 12, 2021 7:18 am Zappola is now Capo of NJ crew if I recall correctly.
He’s real comfortable over in Jersey, turned down the Acting Boss position to remain in Jersey.
He wasn’t able to take the acting boss position because he was on paper so it went to Big Mike. George stayed as a soldier until he was off paper and they found a spot for him.
Zappola could have taken it when his supervised release ended but he was comfortable in Jersey
Where did you get that bit of info from? That once he was off paper he could take the AB spot from DeSantis? Which episode did Pennisi say that? I’d like to go back and listen.

It doesn’t make sense to me that after a couple years as AB going to parties and meeting as the Lucchese representative and doing a decent job (according to pennisi) that they would just take him down. I haven’t heard or read anywhere Big Mike was supposed to be just a place holder for Zappola. Maybe I missed this tidbit from Pennisi, looking forward to your response.

Re: Vic Amuso loyalists

by Little_Al1991 » Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:07 pm

johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:43 am
Little_Al1991 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 12, 2021 7:46 am
moneyman wrote: ↑Fri Nov 12, 2021 7:18 am Zappola is now Capo of NJ crew if I recall correctly.
He’s real comfortable over in Jersey, turned down the Acting Boss position to remain in Jersey.
He wasn’t able to take the acting boss position because he was on paper so it went to Big Mike. George stayed as a soldier until he was off paper and they found a spot for him.
Zappola could have taken it when his supervised release ended but he was comfortable in Jersey

Re: Vic Amuso loyalists

by Pmac2 » Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:33 am

listening to pennisi either george conte or frank bones came home to alot of money because they had a associate watching there money builld for all the jail time. i think it was frank bones. was it conte is living in vegas and the bosses tried to send him some money as a token. funny the pod cast guy always talk about conte and he retired and probaly isnt 60ty

Re: Vic Amuso loyalists

by johnny_scootch » Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:43 am

Little_Al1991 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 12, 2021 7:46 am
moneyman wrote: ↑Fri Nov 12, 2021 7:18 am Zappola is now Capo of NJ crew if I recall correctly.
He’s real comfortable over in Jersey, turned down the Acting Boss position to remain in Jersey.
He wasn’t able to take the acting boss position because he was on paper so it went to Big Mike. George stayed as a soldier until he was off paper and they found a spot for him.

Re: Vic Amuso loyalists

by Dave65827 » Fri Nov 12, 2021 2:18 pm

If anything I’m betting they are trying to include as many people as possible in the indictment. I expect multiple informers over quite some times like the old 2017 indictment

Re: Vic Amuso loyalists

by Little_Al1991 » Fri Nov 12, 2021 1:07 pm

Tonyd621 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 12, 2021 8:40 am
Little_Al1991 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 12, 2021 7:43 am
Shellackhead wrote: ↑Fri Nov 12, 2021 7:04 am Well done, noticed how most of these guys got hit with decades long sentences in the 90s.
Thank you.Mikey DeSantis could be going back inside soon because an indictment is being built against him and Dellorusso
They been saying an indictment building against them for years... nypost had an article as far back as 2018 stating that. I think their informants have not panned out as they hoped when that article ran.
I think the NY post article was released last year stating that they would be indicted but I believe that they are just making the case against them solid.The Manhattan US Attorneys office will wait for as long as they need to but once the indictment comes down, I don’t think DeSantis and Dellorusso can beat it

Re: Vic Amuso loyalists

by eboli » Fri Nov 12, 2021 10:05 am

Some more info on Papagni provided by Capeci:

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Re: Vic Amuso loyalists

by moneyman » Fri Nov 12, 2021 9:56 am

When I search Papagni in my digital copy of Mob Boss, nothing comes up. I guess D'Arco never mentioned him?

Re: Vic Amuso loyalists

by eboli » Fri Nov 12, 2021 8:57 am

Little_Al1991 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 12, 2021 7:45 am
eboli wrote: ↑Fri Nov 12, 2021 7:12 am Welcome to the board! What's the source that Papagni was the consigliere between 1993 and 1996? If I remember correctly, he was IDd and indicted as a captain for the Mariconda murder.
Thank you.I remember hearing from somewhere that Papagni was the Consigliere at one time but Wikipedia says 1993 until 1996.It’s not exactly the most reliable source but it’s something though
I checked the references. Former federal prosecutor John Kroger identifies him as a one-time consigliere, but I haven't seen anything pointing out that he was in position for three years. The excerpt in question:

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