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by bn » Sat Sep 23, 2023 2:15 pm
by B. » Wed Jun 28, 2023 4:04 pm
by bn » Wed Jun 28, 2023 3:44 pm
by B. » Wed Jun 28, 2023 2:30 pm
bn wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2023 1:57 pm B. wrote: ↑Sat May 20, 2023 10:33 pm Another likely member at this time was Salvatore Franco Sr. (1906-1990), father of member Salvatore Jr. and son-in-law of Domenico Arcuri. In the 1960s Freddy Santantonio said Domenico Arcuri's son-in-law was a made member under him and Michael DiLeonardo was also told the Francos went back in the Family before the ones we know. Arcuri's other son-in-law was Frank Ginex (Ginexi) who despite his strange name had heritage in Santo Stefano Quisquina and had lived in Tampa along with NYC like the Arcuris and Francos. It's more likely that Salvatore Franco Sr. was who Santantonio was referring to though. Are you sure Santantonio meant Arcuri, just wondering, because in the FBI report it appears that the capo who Santantonio said had a son in law under him was Gaetano Russo (#14 in the report, with 9 made men) In the report, the captains' names are more toward the left, while the guys named under him were "in the middle" ish of the page. In a MF file an informant named a "Don Russo" as a capo, the informant is 99% santantonio, so the name above the son-in-law info is probably tom russo, aka Gaetano Russo.
B. wrote: ↑Sat May 20, 2023 10:33 pm Another likely member at this time was Salvatore Franco Sr. (1906-1990), father of member Salvatore Jr. and son-in-law of Domenico Arcuri. In the 1960s Freddy Santantonio said Domenico Arcuri's son-in-law was a made member under him and Michael DiLeonardo was also told the Francos went back in the Family before the ones we know. Arcuri's other son-in-law was Frank Ginex (Ginexi) who despite his strange name had heritage in Santo Stefano Quisquina and had lived in Tampa along with NYC like the Arcuris and Francos. It's more likely that Salvatore Franco Sr. was who Santantonio was referring to though.
by bn » Wed Jun 28, 2023 1:57 pm
by B. » Sat May 20, 2023 10:33 pm
by bn » Sat May 20, 2023 6:42 pm
Angelo Santino wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 1:20 pm HairyKnuckles wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 7:59 am Btw, it doesn´t appear all the Moscas were in same crew. Ralph Mosca (for example) was under Frank Rizzo who headed a crew later taken over by (probably) Nicholas Melillo. All East Harlem Gambino guys were under Rizzo or Napolitano. Melillo was originally from East Harlem. Question, has anyone ever tried to correct the 1963 chart w added names and attempted to divide the soldiers into crews? Is such a thing possible? I ask because there's overlap with 1980 names.
HairyKnuckles wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 7:59 am Btw, it doesn´t appear all the Moscas were in same crew. Ralph Mosca (for example) was under Frank Rizzo who headed a crew later taken over by (probably) Nicholas Melillo. All East Harlem Gambino guys were under Rizzo or Napolitano. Melillo was originally from East Harlem.
by B. » Fri May 19, 2023 8:44 am
by HairyKnuckles » Fri May 19, 2023 3:34 am
by bn » Sun Apr 30, 2023 3:58 pm
InCamelot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 1:47 pm bn wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:26 pm These were the soldiers under Joe Zingaro 1. Frank LoCascio (1932) 'Frankie Loc' 2. John DeGregorio (1910) 'Big John' 3. Felice Teti (1914) 'Little Phil' 4. Frank Mastroiacova (1914) 'Rummy' 5. James Massi (1908) 'Jimmy Ward' 6. Rocco Mazzi (1916) 'Rogie' (Already Listed) 7. Anthony Porcelli (1929) 'Porky' (Already Listed) 8. Aniello Mancuso (1930) 'Wahoo' 9. Frank Fiumara (1912) 'F. F.' 10. Robert Guippone (1930) 'Sonny' Half of the names came from LCNBios, the other half from Nasabeak (#2, #5, #6, #8) Peter 'Petey Bull' Baratta (1910) was under Frank 'Wops' Gagliardi (Thanks to Nasabeak). Sorry if was this answered elsewhere, but did Frankie Loc and Wahoo Mancuso end up with their own separate crews?
bn wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:26 pm These were the soldiers under Joe Zingaro 1. Frank LoCascio (1932) 'Frankie Loc' 2. John DeGregorio (1910) 'Big John' 3. Felice Teti (1914) 'Little Phil' 4. Frank Mastroiacova (1914) 'Rummy' 5. James Massi (1908) 'Jimmy Ward' 6. Rocco Mazzi (1916) 'Rogie' (Already Listed) 7. Anthony Porcelli (1929) 'Porky' (Already Listed) 8. Aniello Mancuso (1930) 'Wahoo' 9. Frank Fiumara (1912) 'F. F.' 10. Robert Guippone (1930) 'Sonny' Half of the names came from LCNBios, the other half from Nasabeak (#2, #5, #6, #8) Peter 'Petey Bull' Baratta (1910) was under Frank 'Wops' Gagliardi (Thanks to Nasabeak).
by InCamelot » Sun Apr 30, 2023 1:47 pm
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by CornerBoy » Fri Jan 13, 2023 7:16 am
by johnny_scootch » Fri Jan 13, 2023 6:17 am
B. wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 8:20 pm Chris Christie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 8:30 am Joseph and Nick Corozzo were born in Brooklyn in 1941 and 1940. The 1940 census did manage to catch an infant Nicholas "Corrozzo" on East 22nd born to a Salvatore (born NYC) and Rose (born in Indian Territory, Oklahoma of Italian descent). Salvatore's father Nunziato Corozzo is from Barcellona, Sicily. It's a match but I can't confirm I found the right infant Corozzo and given he's a higher profile guy, perhaps someone may know more. I found a Joseph born 1 Oct 1941 in Brooklyn but his name is Joseph R. Corozzo Jr., which would scrap the above Salvatore as the potential father. I think one of the Biondos came from Barcellona which is in Messina. Was just looking through some old posts and this might answer the mystery from a report Felice saw: felice wrote: ↑Thu May 26, 2016 9:38 am I was reading an italian document from some years ago, there are several mentions on a tape to a made guy within the Gambino's they call "Il Messinese" who seems to be very powerful and gets last word on several matters. Messinese is an adjective to mean he is from Messina. I really didn't know who he could be until I could read another part that made me suspect that "Il Messinese" could be John D'Amico We know from the Stefanelli tapes that the Corozzos were working with John Gambino as the top powers in the Family circa the period Felice is referring to, so with their family likely coming from Messina it could well be one of them. Be interesting if the Sicilian faction referred to them by their heritage given they're fully American. Jack D'Amico's family was from Palermo so definitely not him.
Chris Christie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 8:30 am Joseph and Nick Corozzo were born in Brooklyn in 1941 and 1940. The 1940 census did manage to catch an infant Nicholas "Corrozzo" on East 22nd born to a Salvatore (born NYC) and Rose (born in Indian Territory, Oklahoma of Italian descent). Salvatore's father Nunziato Corozzo is from Barcellona, Sicily. It's a match but I can't confirm I found the right infant Corozzo and given he's a higher profile guy, perhaps someone may know more. I found a Joseph born 1 Oct 1941 in Brooklyn but his name is Joseph R. Corozzo Jr., which would scrap the above Salvatore as the potential father. I think one of the Biondos came from Barcellona which is in Messina.
felice wrote: ↑Thu May 26, 2016 9:38 am I was reading an italian document from some years ago, there are several mentions on a tape to a made guy within the Gambino's they call "Il Messinese" who seems to be very powerful and gets last word on several matters. Messinese is an adjective to mean he is from Messina. I really didn't know who he could be until I could read another part that made me suspect that "Il Messinese" could be John D'Amico
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