THE BLACK HAND FORUM

PolackTony wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 9:32 pm

aleksandrored wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 6:58 pm I think the Lucchese are underrated, I see more people talking about the other families, with guys like Luciano, Costello, Genovese, Gambino, Bonanno, Colombo, Galante, Persico and etc... I think the Lucchese are very discreet and less known in general. Until the 90's with Amuso and Casso.

I feel like most discussion of the Luccheses, apart from some attention to the Vario crew and the NJ faction, I see is focused on the Vic and Gas era forward. I just haven’t seen as much of the deep dives with them as I’ve seen with the other NY fams and I find them one of the more interesting, especially for those earlier decades.

One thing that I would personally love to know more about was their narcotics links with Chicago. I believe that Frank Rappa, a Sicilian guy who was a major narcotics trafficker for Chicago and liaison to the Sicilian/Italian mafia, was connected to the Luccheses? Maybe their zip faction?

B. wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 7:23 pm Nobody else has mentioned it so no idea but it makes sense given not many members were well-known to other informants.

PolackTony wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 9:32 pm

aleksandrored wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 6:58 pm I think the Lucchese are underrated, I see more people talking about the other families, with guys like Luciano, Costello, Genovese, Gambino, Bonanno, Colombo, Galante, Persico and etc... I think the Lucchese are very discreet and less known in general. Until the 90's with Amuso and Casso.

I feel like most discussion of the Luccheses, apart from some attention to the Vario crew and the NJ faction, I see is focused on the Vic and Gas era forward. I just haven’t seen as much of the deep dives with them as I’ve seen with the other NY fams and I find them one of the more interesting, especially for those earlier decades.

One thing that I would personally love to know more about was their narcotics links with Chicago. I believe that Frank Rappa, a Sicilian guy who was a major narcotics trafficker for Chicago and liaison to the Sicilian/Italian mafia, was connected to the Luccheses? Maybe their zip faction?

PolackTony wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 9:32 pm

aleksandrored wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 6:58 pm I think the Lucchese are underrated, I see more people talking about the other families, with guys like Luciano, Costello, Genovese, Gambino, Bonanno, Colombo, Galante, Persico and etc... I think the Lucchese are very discreet and less known in general. Until the 90's with Amuso and Casso.

I feel like most discussion of the Luccheses, apart from some attention to the Vario crew and the NJ faction, I see is focused on the Vic and Gas era forward. I just haven’t seen as much of the deep dives with them as I’ve seen with the other NY fams and I find them one of the more interesting, especially for those earlier decades.

One thing that I would personally love to know more about was their narcotics links with Chicago. I believe that Frank Rappa, a Sicilian guy who was a major narcotics trafficker for Chicago and liaison to the Sicilian/Italian mafia, was connected to the Luccheses? Maybe their zip faction?

aleksandrored wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 6:58 pm I think the Lucchese are underrated, I see more people talking about the other families, with guys like Luciano, Costello, Genovese, Gambino, Bonanno, Colombo, Galante, Persico and etc... I think the Lucchese are very discreet and less known in general. Until the 90's with Amuso and Casso.

Grouchy Sinatra wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 9:11 pm

PolackTony wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 8:45 am

Tangential question. What exactly was the relation between Vicent Rao and the Raos from the restaurant? Was there a direct and substantial relation or were they just cousins of some sort going back to Corleone? Additionally, was it actually the case that Joe Rao of the Genovese fam was Vincent Rao's brother?

According to the restaurant's website the family is from Polla, which is about 90 miles from Naples. I would guess Rao is just a popular name all over Italy, and it's just coincidence.

PolackTony wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 8:45 am

Tangential question. What exactly was the relation between Vicent Rao and the Raos from the restaurant? Was there a direct and substantial relation or were they just cousins of some sort going back to Corleone? Additionally, was it actually the case that Joe Rao of the Genovese fam was Vincent Rao's brother?

B. wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:52 pm

InCamelot wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:50 pm

B. wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:39 pm One of the interesting aspects of the Luccheses is their secrecy. Taglialatela said the Lucchese Family had a guideline about not introducing its members to the other Families (so did the DeCavalcantes according to LaRasso). Interesting they kept this up even though they didn't care about sticking to their Sicilian/Corleonesi roots.

They didn't have to clear who they were making with the Commission first?
And was there indication that the family actually functioned that way? Surprised the Genovese didn't do this.

They would have passed the list, but he meant formal introductions (i.e. "this is Carmine, Amico Nostra"). Not that they never did it, only that they avoided doing it if it wasn't necessary.

The lists would be more secure since they were passed between captains.

InCamelot wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:50 pm

B. wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:39 pm One of the interesting aspects of the Luccheses is their secrecy. Taglialatela said the Lucchese Family had a guideline about not introducing its members to the other Families (so did the DeCavalcantes according to LaRasso). Interesting they kept this up even though they didn't care about sticking to their Sicilian/Corleonesi roots.

They didn't have to clear who they were making with the Commission first?
And was there indication that the family actually functioned that way? Surprised the Genovese didn't do this.

B. wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:39 pm One of the interesting aspects of the Luccheses is their secrecy. Taglialatela said the Lucchese Family had a guideline about not introducing its members to the other Families (so did the DeCavalcantes according to LaRasso). Interesting they kept this up even though they didn't care about sticking to their Sicilian/Corleonesi roots.

bababooey wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 7:12 pm

Extortion wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 1:48 pm He’s pretty famous and he was low key powerhouse. Don’t know if he was underrated per se.

Underrated might not be the best wording, but i def feel he isn't as respected (i know we arent suppose respect them since they are killers etc, but you get the context) as he should be. I think he was way more important to the whole of cosa nostra than people like profaci or even bonanno.

Shellackhead wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 1:03 pm I wish I had the skills that Eboli or Gohn have in researching I would of dissected the Lucchese family by now