THE BLACK HAND FORUM

Shellackhead wrote:Funny how Bugz is more capable than Scorcia but Scorcia got made

Probably because of age.

Amatos crew is going to be around for a while .. I mean there is always going to be 1 or 2 of his guys on the street. So, imo his crew will not dissipate. This will only make the Colombos stronger. Its not some power house crew. But it's a crew of guys who make money... and that's that. Pennisi has told that Amato was an earner driving around in his new truck with his mastiff. Ronnie Baritomo that guy from Reggianos or whatever a successful restaurant was an associate of Amato Pennisi mentioned. So he's not funky. He just wants to f*ck around on his girl but doesn't want his girl to f*ck around on him...hey if that's not some true facts then idk what is.

are these open to the public at all?

Ozgoz wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 2:43 pm

Tonyd621 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:41 am

stubbs wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:22 am Thanks for posting!

Still amazed Amato was ever made a captain. That whole gps to track his girlfriend fiasco makes him seem, uh, not the sharpest knife in the drawer so to speak.

I'm not amazed... he was a money maker.. What did he do when he got out of his last stint? He hit the ground running, quickly formed a crew, started shaking down independent shys, independent bookmakers ("the lion" the boscos) I mean albeit some weren't very successful with some of those endeavors.
Nevertheless, he made alot of money with his crew of at one time nobodies. He got caught up in some pussy, hell happens to alot of us...ask Pennisi.
Not messing with another made guys wife is one of the very few rules that will still get you clipped in 2021. So yes the pussy will get in trouble real quick. Shouldn't be shelved for it though. He's going to do his time for that.

Gotta agree with Tony here, a real man never judges another man for losing the plot when it comes to pussy. We’ve all done it lol. Big time.

Yeah Pennisi made it seem like Amato was a huge earner that had his hands in everything. I think Pennisi was thinking about doing business in the sausage industry or some kinda produce, or something like that—and Amato told him he could get his products placed in any grocery store or market he needed.

Pmac2 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:08 pm He got a good deal he'll be kn a halfway house in 2 yrs.

Who amato? He's been locked up this whole time I think they are pushing for so much time is because this case is off the docket he will be more than 2/3 done.

I wonder how much time andy russo and teddy persico get. They knew about the union shakedown but really didnt have to much to do with it other then pronaly a few bucks. I bet they get 2 3yrs

He got a good deal he'll be kn a halfway house in 2 yrs.

Tonyd621 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:41 am

stubbs wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:22 am Thanks for posting!

Still amazed Amato was ever made a captain. That whole gps to track his girlfriend fiasco makes him seem, uh, not the sharpest knife in the drawer so to speak.

I'm not amazed... he was a money maker.. What did he do when he got out of his last stint? He hit the ground running, quickly formed a crew, started shaking down independent shys, independent bookmakers ("the lion" the boscos) I mean albeit some weren't very successful with some of those endeavors.
Nevertheless, he made alot of money with his crew of at one time nobodies. He got caught up in some pussy, hell happens to alot of us...ask Pennisi.
Not messing with another made guys wife is one of the very few rules that will still get you clipped in 2021. So yes the pussy will get in trouble real quick. Shouldn't be shelved for it though. He's going to do his time for that.

Gotta agree with Tony here, a real man never judges another man for losing the plot when it comes to pussy. We’ve all done it lol. Big time.

Yeah it seems like he’s got 3 yrs and change left. Really thought he was gonna hit harder than this. Props to his lawyer(s).

When will Amato be out then?

About 3 years more for Amato??

Cheers Ed.

STATEN ISLAND, N.Y. — A reputed Colombo crime family captain who authorities said was a ruthless force on Staten Island during his reign will be spending more time behind bars than he hoped after he was dished a nearly-six-year prison sentence in Brooklyn federal court Thursday.

Joseph Amato Sr., 62, a Colts Neck, N.J., resident who earlier this year pleaded guilty to shaking down two people and stalking his then-girlfriend with a GPS tracking device on the borough, was given minimal sympathy by federal Judge Brian M. Cogan, who called the defendant’s attributes “almost as bad as they can possibly be.”
Garbed in a blue shirt and green pants, Amato mostly sat quiet in court as his lawyer, Scott E. Leemon, fervently argued the conditions at the Brooklyn federal jail where his client has been for the past two years are “barbaric.”

Those conditions, Leemon contended, should warrant a more lenient sentence of 63 months — the bottom of the suggested federal guidelines for the crimes considered in the court.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Elizabeth Geddes argued Amato, who previously served time in prison for his association with organized crime, “doesn’t hesitate to use violence to get what he wants” and has made a series of decisions that has warranted his reputation as a “fearsome mobster.”

“In virtually all of those choices, he has put the goals of the Colombo crime family at the top,” said Geddes.

Prosecutors said Amato “is never going to leave the mafia” and pointed to his willingness to involve his own son, Joseph Amato Jr., in criminal activities as evidence of his dedication to the criminal organization.
Amato Jr. previously pleaded guilty to his role in a conspiracy to extort a loan borrower. The two were among 20 suspects, including 17 borough residents, indicted in Brooklyn federal court in October 2019.

While the two parties could not come to an agreement on the proposed sentencing guidelines for the case (the government believed the sentencing range should be between 70 and 80 months while Leemon calculated it to be between 63 and 78 months), Cogan, who has the right to depart from those suggestions, said the guidelines mattered “very little” in his decision.
Cogan said he considered parting upward past the range of 70 months, noting, “I’ve got to say, there’s a lot of reasons to do it.” However, the conditions at the federal prison ultimately factored into his final verdict, he said.
And while Leemon mentioned Amato Sr.’s “productive” time in prison, which included working and feeding other inmates, Cogan said, “those things pale in comparison to the life he chose for himself.”
Additionally, as prosecutors noted, the stalking charge Amato Sr. pleaded guilty to was not included in the proposed guidelines.
The alleged Colombo captain, who tracked his then-girlfriend in 2015 and 2016 by placing a GPS tracking device in her car, regularly retrieving and recharging it to reposition it on the vehicle, once emailed the woman, “This is my Island, not yours,” referencing Staten Island. “I have eyes all over,” he said.
Excluding that charge from the guidelines, Cogan said, gave Amato Sr. “a real break.” And while the capo took responsibility for the crimes, the federal judge said he had no belief the defendant was capable of believing his crimes were inherently wrong.
“Everything about him suggests incorrigibility,” Cogan said at the sentencing.

NO CONTACT WITH ORGANIZED CRIME
In addition to the five-year-and-10-month sentence, Cogan ordered one year of supervised release that included no contact with any members of organized crime groups.
That point drew a line of contention from the defense lawyer, Leemon, who requested the man’s son be excluded from that restriction.
Prosecutors opposed lifting that rule, citing the pair’s actions together, while Leemon suggested Amato Jr. “changed” his life around.
Ultimately, Cogan determined the two could only engage in monitored conversations with a third party present.
In addition, Amato Sr. must forfeit just over $60,000, the court said.
While he has a right to appeal, Leemon said his client will “probably not” file that paperwork.

Man Amato really caught a break. They didn’t include the stalking charge in the guidelines. And because the conditions at the Brooklyn Federal jail are “barbaric” (the judges exact words), and Amato has been housed there for 2 years, he gave him the lower end of the sentencing guidelines. After he finishes his sentence, he can’t have any contact with anyone affiliated with OC for a year. Only exception is his son, who he can see in front of an approved third party.

JohnnyS wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 11:24 am Amato got nearly six years.

https://www.silive.com/crime-safety/202 ... judge.html

Thanks Johnny.
Can you post the article? Its behind a paywall.